Friday, October 17, 2008

While You Were Sleeping and Dreaming it was Real.

Yesterday I saw an article in Newsweek that said that Christians in India were being abused. It was the sort of dedicated disinfo that gets churned out by lying, agenda driven hacks who write what they get told to write since journalism got buried in an unmarked grave.

I have friends in India who keep me abreast of what’s been going on there and from what I am told, the Christians are rapacious in their efforts to gain political power and access to the ‘goodies locker’ by any means necessary. They’d like nothing better than to eliminate the Hindu traditions and along with Islam they’ve got the Hindus in a pincher grip and the Hindus don’t like it; never mind that the pinchers want to eat each other alive as well. So what we really have is the Hindus reacting to Christian missionary, weasel actions which get reported as “those terrible things that are happening to our beloved Christians as they attempt to subdue one of the oldest cultures on Earth to their goddamned missionary ways.” Of course, they wouldn’t say it that way but I do.

This same garbage is going on in Iraq with the Franklin Graham, God's Fascist’s Brigades. It’s going on around the world where bloodthirsty, fundamentalist Christians and Muslims are dispensing their vicious coercions at point of a sword; the threat of an empty food bowl, the promise of an empty heaven or a burning Hell, anything to swell the numbers of those deceived into thinking God is some kind of vindictive swine just like them.

These things go on while we are sleeping and dreaming that the world is only where we find ourselves and that people who pose as spiritual actually are spiritual. In this dreaming world, that blood-soaked coward, George W. Bush can be a Christian. In this sleeping world everything appears to be something other than what it is and people just eat up the lies because the truth puts them at odds with everyone they know.

In this world you don’t hear that The Rothschild’s own Rio Tinto and you don’t hear that they are doing this to the Papuans. The interconnecting web of vampire bankers, Zionist and Christian psychopaths, as well as the suit and tie legion of foot-spiders with fountain pens, make the bloody web of the sleeping world tremble with the cries of those who have the misfortune of living somewhere that plunder is to be had.

I watched the third debate yesterday and heard McCain and Obama talk about what they were going to do. I heard one of them talk about doing something about diabetes. This diabetes epidemic is the result of corporations flooding the fast food restaurants and supermarkets with soft drinks and sugar saturated crap that sleeping Schmoos pour down their unconscious gullets. How likely is it that either of these men will point out what those who are not asleep know to be true?

I heard them talk about health care. Comprehensive health care is readily available in most ‘civilized’ countries. I pay about one hundred euro a month for mine here in Europe. Amazing isn’t it? I don’t go to doctors but I have it and it’s got features you are paying ten times more for and possibly more than that. Why don’t you have comprehensive health care at an affordable price? You don’t have it because the corporations and consortiums that feed at this overflowing trough want to milk every bloody nickel from the scam. Even worse, they don’t know what they’re doing most of the time and their pharmaceuticals are often more dangerous than the condition they are treating. Even worse... these evil shits know exactly what excesses in the culture cause the maladies that they are incapable of treating and most likely own stock in the corporations that sell the poisons that create the diseases.

Will McCain or Obama be able to do anything about the root causes of the problems that are created by the corporations that own them? Where does that leave you? Do you think it’s some kind of accident that the world is awash in massive, flesh containers who’ve worn a path in their carpet from the ice-box to the TV? “Wide-Load Jeans; when you’re packing a Whole Lotta Love!”

They talked about education. The American education system is where it is on purpose. How are they going to fix something that is intended to be that way by the corporations and consortiums that own them? The whole, fucked up system is designed to be the way it is to reduce the target consumer to a mindless, porcine drone on a treadmill of consumption. It’s the American Way.

Yes, they eliminated the manufacturing industries from the American landscape to maximize profit but they also did it to make the military more attractive. The video game industry is part of the MIC. It’s a cradle to grave continuum. The destruction of the moral compass in the young is precisely for the reason of making moral relativism dovetail into whatever explanation is being presented by whatever corporations are profiting from the confusion. They’ve got whore outfits for pre-teens and they are on their way to the crib and... it’s all cool. It’s the American Way. It’s our freedoms that they hate. What? These freedoms? Freedom isn’t license.

You can’t fix something that is the way it is because of what it is. You can’t head for Kansas City and wind up in Boise if you are coming from Memphis... unless you are really asleep at the wheel. You are where you are because things are what they are and this particular way of doing things eventually consumes everything and creates a Hell on Earth. First it does it in far locations and then it does it where you are. And that is why you’ve got no Posse Comitatus or Habeas Corpus but you do have a brigade of soldiers somewhere, waiting on something. This is why Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were created so that you would have something to be frightened of and need protecting from while your freedoms and rights were removed. But... you’re asleep. You’re dreaming.

In England... where the world banking powers live... over the years... men like McCain and Obama and everyone else who got into the rackets made high sounding speeches while they declared war on China to force the Chinese government to let them addict their people to opium. They went into India and enslaved and murdered and they gave magnificent speeches. They brutalized the Irish across the centuries and brought harm everywhere they went and they dressed nice and they looked sharp and they gave magnificent speeches. Every now and then they would create a new boogeyman and bleed their country white of young men about whom they would give magnificent speeches.

In America they wiped out the Native Americans and bought slaves from the Jewish slave traders who were good enough to keep records so we have their accounts today. They brutalized the Chinese and stuck the Japanese into camps. The Japanese left their lands and possessions with Richard Nixon’s Quakers in trust, to be returned later only they weren’t. Pearl Harbor, like 9/11, was ‘arranged’. It’s about the money and those who control it and you think that Obama or McCain are going to fix something that is the way it is on purpose?

I’m not sure you should wake up. If would be nice if you could just sleep forever and believe the lies. Unfortunately for you, the time has come when not waking up is no longer an option. There are solutions but they require the same hatchet and scalpel that these off-the-Wal-Mart shelves Ken dolls were talking about. These deluded robots are just as fast asleep as you are. Well... you’re not going to be able to go on sleeping much longer. What do you think the learning curve on the landscape will be when you do wake up... partially wake up? It’s hard to think on your feet when you are lying on your back.

Yeah, everybody’s just trying to make a living buddy. There’s gold to be had if you can just do some thing about the Papuans or the Hindus or whoever is, wherever they are ...and ‘in the way’ of progress and the big, bright, beautiful dreams of the American Way that is on it’s way out and soon to be located in some other theater of enterprise where the dream masters and slave masters set up shop.

Visible sings: God in Country by Les Visible♫ No Tracks ♫
'No Tracks' is track no. 7 of 11 on Visible's 2001 album 'God in Country'
Lyrics (pops up)

God in Country by Les Visible

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

Would you like the shit sandwich or the open-face shit sandwich for breakfast?
It all comes from the same pot, one just has an extra slice of white bread.

jj

Ben There said...

Even when we wake up (individually) we still have to live within the parameters of the dream. That's the catch. There's still quite the spiritual gauntlet to be run unless you happen to live off the map somewhere. My formula is to live one breath at a time.

Anonymous said...

I just saw them the other day and it crystallized.

We live near a touristy area and the other day, I saw them. I pulled into a place I usually avoid during tourist season to pick up a few things when….

I was attacked by the zombies.

Attacked isn’t quite true but there they were, walking in front of, and on the sides of my car…. like zombies, totally oblivious to everything around them, including, it seemed, each other.

Like slow moving bumper cars with John Deere hats and brand new tennis shoes…sandals with knee-high black socks

I went inside this place and past the lunch counter area where almost every one of them downed a few pills before sucking back their diet coke and Velveeta covered chips. I actually stopped for a while and just watched.

I was in a dream

Most were overweight and either limping or in some form of discomfort from simply walking or breathing. They ranged in age from about 30 up to 80. They were everywhere.

And then it hit me….THEY WERE ALL STONED….legally.

I have seen it before next to people at the stoplight popping the 12 noon pill with some type of soda pop. I have seen them barely able to get into the door at McDonalds and ordering the biggest barrel of Aspartame that they can.

Our kids have had their friends over who can’t eat for a few hours because they just took their pills……They are stoned too.

People are turning to heroin when there Oxycontin benefits give out.

Take this to get up, this to stay up, this to keep your Asparatmed heart going, this to get your dick hard, this to balance out the crap you eat…………

We are a nation of junkies……and I am not looking forward to when they can’t get what they have been told they need……

Damn…there goes my restless leg again…….

jj

Anonymous said...

Free Will, which is the apple in the Garden of Eden, was given to humanity to wake them up. Most humans do not use it though, and would love to become animals again. Hell is refusing the evolutionary ride of the Infinite Creator.

However, it is not possible to go back. Once the apple has been eaten, there is no going back. What most humans do, as a substitute, is go to sleep. That is why your words will never be heeded. You are talking to sleep walkers.

Humanity is doomed, and there is nothing you or anyone else can do. It was decided long ago to scrap the human race, as it is a failed experiment. Believe it or not, the Infinite Creator perfects itself by experimenting in this fashion.

Anonymous said...

Reminds me of that old Schwarzenegger movie True Lies. Physicists tell us about the illusionary nature of reality. At the subatomic level there is no solid matter, therefore how can we have a material world when all its constituents aren’t solid. “Reality” is an illusion created by our five senses. Same goes for the lying government, corporate, Zionist etc. officials. They are all physicists at heart. They have succeeded in creating an illusion for us to live in. Cool huh, now we have an illusion on both sides of the atomic spectrum. So many people believe the lie that it has become “truth.” You shouldn’t be continually castigating the liars. It is unpatriotic.

Fud

Brian said...

Hi Les and all. In line with the great linking project… In future when making comments here on Les's blog or on any of the other blogs. I will be signing in with another blog I have. It’s called, ‘Truth Com.’ http://truh-com.blogspot.com/ I think it would be more appropriate to use given the fact that this linking project seeks to promote truth in whatever flavour it comes and not one particular flavour i.e. catholic, Christian, metaphysical, right, left, up, down and so on and so on. In the pursuit of truth, I don’t want to put people off with my Catholic views. I think under the circumstances, that is to say (we are all in this together) it would be better to leave ones particular belief system at the door before entering. I didn’t come to Les’s blog to convert Les or anyone else to the Catholic Church, I came because I believe I was directed here in my search for the truth.

nina said...

Riding the giant ferriswheel attached to the giant roller coaster. Whole landscapes whip past, sunrises, twilights, some cars fly off through centrifugal force.
Every time you comforted a person on a bad acid trip, these times in the here and now, are exactly what they were seeing.
If we could go into Wavy Gravy's tent today ... well, I'd just let 'em go ahead and freak. No tranqs, no nothing. After awhile, riding the ferriscoaster, they'd figure it out all by themselves.

There is only one mystery and the barkers beckoning at the haunted house are not it.

nina

Greg said...

The one point I would like to insert into your essay, by way of what I believe is a clarification is the fact that "Christianity" has about as much to do with Christ as fast-food has do so with food. The perversion of the teachings of Christ began even as the blood was drying on the cross. Now don't think I'm some kind of jesus freak or am "saved" or whatever, it's just that in my search for truth and light I looked at many religions to try to get at their core beliefs. In the case of Christianity, there is little connection to what Christ taught and the example he set, at least according to the Gospels ( all of them, not just the "approved ones") and what "Christions" have stood for and have believed for at least the last 1500 years.
"Don't be like the hypocrites and sit in the front of the church, but go into your closet and pray"
"Love your enemies."
"The kingdom of heaven is within you"
What has this to do with mighty cathedrals and churches, or slaughtering most of the indigenous population of the Americas or dropping millions of tons of bombs on cities,
etc, etc., ad nauseam.
Even the Muslims recognize Christ as a great teacher and prophet so let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. I think what we have today are Anti-Christians.

kikz05 said...

aftn y'all...

i'd read an article on wrh, inre the many faceted approach to the US accepting a police state...

that aftn, my 6th grader came home and this is what transpired, which i wrote wrh of...

another area of concern... since here in tx psychological testing is not permitted w/o parental permission...and this will vary state to state, for now.....

a more insidious probing is taking place, to see...
just who is ready to accept and who is not.

my 6th grader came home and informed me, in a reading class they were given a handout w/various statements to mark; agree/disagree... under the auspices of a 'reading assignment'.

she and her (8th grade)sisters had been put on point for things such as this years ago. i doubt i'll ever see that handout send home.


the statement that alarmed my daughter:

you should never question the authority a governmental employee

agree/disagree

Anonymous said...

brian
brian can I call you Graham
Graham why not let randall do this linking thing (if you feel that Les is not already doing this)
What's the use of everyone doing a linking thing- it doesn't serve the purpose. Have a mirror by all means but if everyone does it- chicken with its head cut off thing.
Tony

Frostwolf T'Firerose said...

Hmm. Minor epiphany here.

About four months ago, I performed a piece I started writing at an open-air outdoor festival. My piece was just about an hour long.

As I was performing, I noticed that most people had this glazed look in their eye. James H. Kunstler might call some of them "land whales", but not all of them were overweight. Most of the guys had this truculent expression.

I do this unusual snapping/body percussion thing, and at first people were really interested. But my piece incorporates other stuff into it besides that, and I just dove right in. It felt sort of like I went underwater in a way, but I got to keep my viewpoint as if I was wearing scuba gear.

It occurs to me that I was witnessing a zombie-fest really. And the thing that seals the deal for me is that while I was performing, this one fellow stopped and he looked at me. He really saw me. There was a moment of recognition, sort of "Aha! There's another one..." And I was really intrigued to see if he'd hang around and maybe introduce himself later. Other than my partner and a couple of other people he was pretty much the only "alive" person I saw.

After my performance I felt cleansed and energized. My inner kid-spirit was all "yay!" and yet my talker-self was protecting me with a veneer of looking sort of "zombie-ish" myself, as a sort of de facto cloaking device. (Hope there are others who do that, and that maybe one day we can all unfurl the cloaks and recognize one another.)

Just goes to show you--things sometimes get shaken up in the Temporary Autonomous Zones, but they're generally open to everyone. Including land-whales and other generally Schlaefendevoelker.

notamobster said...

Huh? Did somebody say something? I must've missed it...I was sleeping.

bholanath said...

Hi Les. You also know the complexity of the India thing, so I don't think there's much I would disagree with in what today's post said. Been goin to India off-on for 39 years, play N. Ind. percussion. Anyway it's disgusting how Xtianity has practically converted all the tribals and dalits. Their methods are the same as they were here in "winning the west", only with 'evolved' evil techniques. Thing is, though, even though most of my 'spiritual' practices are Hindu-based, I have not only heard so much bullshit from the BJP types, but been assaulted by them personally. They're some sick mofos, (I call 'em Brahminazis), and do everything they can to psychopathically prey on the indigenous and outcastes. They allowed those people to run for the illusory 'protection' of the Xtians, by their refusal to wake up to the perversion of varna (caste). I also lived long time in Banaras and Delhi, studied with Muslim masters as well, and for so long seen effortless co-operation between Hindus, Muslims. Hell, the Muslims do the costumes and sets for the Ram Lilas! 'Course most us musicians don't give a shit about anyone's religion anyway.
Just wanted to say hello. Been goin to your blog first thing everyday for couple years. You're the man, so good to have your voice around, 'cause multilevel shamanic truth is terrifyingly rare, but, there you are, bro!

Anonymous said...

The neverending propaganda that the msm spits out only works if you are dumb enough to believe it in the first place. Unfortunatley 95% of Americans are born dumb and never snap out of it.

And, don`t forget-inside every jew there is a human being waiting to get out.

notamobster said...

Tony -

I tried to do one too. I like the idea of a couple people trying various things... then folks will migrate to whichever seems to work best and from there, some will be scrapped and those folks can jump on the one that works out best.

I think it should definitely have several moderators so it's not labor intensive for one person. Smoking mirrors has readers all over the world. If (for instance) 6 people in different timezones; check in a couple times a day, they can keep the comments moderated, and answer email, etc.

We can have those same 6 people posting essays and allow others to email posts to the common address, and post them with atribution. Sounds good to me, what do y'all think?

Brian said...

Anonymous said.
brian
brian can I call you Graham
Graham why not let randall do this linking thing (if you feel that Les is not already doing this)
What's the use of everyone doing a linking thing- it doesn't serve the purpose. Have a mirror by all means but if everyone does it- chicken with its head cut off thing.
Tony..

Why would you want to call me Graham when my name is Brian..
I don't care who does the linking thing. I was just saying about my using my other blog to sign in with.

psychegram said...

I sometimes wonder if I woke up in time. My own awakening was recent - like a year ago - and I've spent most of it studying up in every way I can, trying to separate truth from bulltwaddle whilst simultaneously keeping my mind open enough to consider possibilities outside the dream logic in which I was formed.... Well, only time will tell if I've learned enough to handle what's coming. Like Ben There, I'm taking it breath by breath, moment by moment ... or at least, trying to.

anonymous:
"We are a nation of junkies……and I am not looking forward to when they can’t get what they have been told they need……"

Do you know how many mass shootings are associated with people who just went off their antidepressents? Almost all.

I had this vision the other day of what things are going to be like when the economy's crashed and there's hordes of newly impoverished people out there who can't afford their prozac anymore. They'll be getting twitchy, and every once in a while.... bang. It reminds me of a story idea I heard one day, where the concept was a virus gets out that turns people into psychopathic murderers, and the paranoia that grows from that.

greg:
"Even the Muslims recognize Christ as a great teacher and prophet so let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. I think what we have today are Anti-Christians."

Amen. The irony of modern evangelical Christianity is thick and delicious. They're desperately concerned with the End Times and the Antichrist and fighting Satan, not realizing that they themselves are the very Antichrists of which their prophecies speak.

In other news, I've added some more to the Free Currency wiki. Still a lot more to come; at the moment it's mostly private notes that giving a quick edit to and slapping up there as fast as possible, so there's quite a bit more still to go.

Anonymous said...

more attacks on Christians , linked to be another bigot Michael Rivero.

So since the freemasons and jesuits have infiltrated the harlot churches, I guesss they all must be attacked right?

Never mind that Bush is nothing but a SATANIC liar. Of course he wanted to smear the name of Christ.

Just another example of alternative sites who are run by gullible SUCKERS.

Can't wait to see all you Obama supporters eat your words.

Strawman said...

I'm not sure if it would be a good thing for a majority of people to wake up or not. It seems that humanity since the dawn of time has had this desire to kill each other sometimes in the most creative ways imaginable. And apparently, no one seems willing to stop. I have always wondered at America's recent history ie the last seventy years or so. We have been in some kind of military action under each of the presidents with the near exception of Carter. Unless one wants to count the Iranian Hostage situation and its aftermath then you can say EVERY president since my grandparents time.
Wouldn't it be nice to live for four or more years without some kind of skirmish? Other countries manage it somehow. Even some so-called 'civilized' countries manage to avoid the high costs of war. How these other countries avoid it seems to be a great mystery to our leaders. For what it's worth this American holds the rest of the citizens of Earth blameless if they finally tire of our antics and ignore us for however long they deem necessary.

the Silverfish said...

Hey Les what happened to your home page? You been naughty again? Says it's been suspended.

sockmonkey said...

Interesting read. The Rise of the Fourth Reich, by Jim Marrs

Brian said...

les Re: your home page...

This site has been suspended

If you manage this site and have a question about why the site is not available, please contact us directly.

Visible said...

Concerning my website. I moved to another server because I was having chronic problems with the host I was with. Now it has taken nearly three weeks to migrate my domain to the new host and I'm still not there as I found out today when I tried to upload the new site. In the meantime my yearly fee came up. I had no intention of paying these people yet again so, while waiting for this migration by snail back, they finally suspended my service. that's all there is to it.

Will my domain ever arrive at the new host? I do not know. We shall see what happens.

Anonymous said...

nota
Sounds right
one blog
multiple (trusted, coordinated) moderators
with (a) mirror site(s)
??
Tony

Anonymous said...

kikz05 8:45 PM
insidious is the word
Tony

sneak said...

"It is hard to free fools from chains they revere." Voltaire

no use for a name said...

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Denis Diderot

sockmonkey said...

Fuck the Creeples

Anonymous said...

I see that Richard M Dolan is close to finishing his second book on UFO's and the National Security State. Certainly, in all the weird goings-on in today's world we cannot discount the influence of beings from other dimensions. It will be interesting, to say the least, to read his findings on the UFO phenomena up until 1991. Things get stranger and stranger.

Justin_n_IL said...

Check out these interviews. The first is Jim Willie and the second is William Engdahl. I just got done listening to the Willie one. Very interesting indeed. Getting ready to listen to the Engdahl interview. I have read about everything these gentleman have written. Very good stuff. There home page links are below the interview links.

http://www.contraryinvestorscafe.com/broadcast.php?media=141

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/print/20081013_alexjones_fwilliamengdahl.mp3

http://www.321gold.com/archives/archives_authors.php?author=Jim+Willie+CB

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/index.html

Justin_n_IL said...

"Amen. The irony of modern evangelical Christianity is thick and delicious. They're desperately concerned with the End Times and the Antichrist and fighting Satan, not realizing that they themselves are the very Antichrists of which their prophecies speak."

Matthew 24
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Matthew 20
16So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Matthew 22
1And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

4Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

6And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

7But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

11And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

14For many are called, but few are chosen.

Matthew 7
12Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Isaiah 28
17Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

18And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell(GRAVE, NOT some pagan fire hole.) shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

19From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

20For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.(Tell me about it!!!)

21For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.

22Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.(Get rid of the wicked and give the earth to the meek.)

2 Timothy 3
1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

atomic punk said...

I dreamed of an old girlfriend and woke up with a big Woodrow. Oh well there is a fresh 55 gallon drum of msg and a 64oz. of aspartame right from Donnie Redrumsfeld's private stock! It's not easy for us 'mericans being the greatest people to ever walk the face of the earth. Were so slick we control our government, waistlines, and pocketbooks.

kikz05 said...

zombies...

ack! the groc store is the worst...

zombies w/carts..eyeroll

they pile up on ea/othr and knot around for ages. last wk, a bunch had clustered around a 'sample station' set up on the end of a major isle... total roadblock. i even loudly intoned.. 'DON'T YOU REALIZE YOU'RE ON CANDID CAMERA?'...

>:) a few even slowly turned to see where 'the voice was coming frm'... i hadta laff.

it's kind of reminiscent of that old star trek episode;
the visitors who vibrated at such a high rate of existence, they were only heard as a whine.

for the visitors; the crew of the enterprise were almost statue like in their vibrational slugishness.

i usually flit among the zombies in almost the same manner...leaving my cart on the large ends of the isles so as not to have to navigate thru the shuffling piles.

hubs and i usually hav confabs about the different groups that show up different times/days.

nothing against meds, they have their place/uses...but we are just about the only 2, we know of locally who aren't on some sort of legal high. any PTA or idiot women's gathering, they're always yapping about their meds, the dosage tweaking, the problems, their kids' meds... the meds they take to counteract the problems that the original meds gave them....it's sad, scary and amusing all at the same time.

at this point, i'm a social outcast becuz i'm not medicated.. i'm almost sure at some not too distant time, 3 mins into the future... i'll be an outlaw. >:)

the balloon has already been trialed. mutterings thru the MSM, the repug/neocons are equating dissent with mental illness.

just remb...it can and will be useful to blend in - aka the movie 'Blindness'.

Greg Bacon said...

Don't farmers fatten up their livestock to get them to butchering weight?

Another thing we'd do on the farm to make the little piggies get fatter faster, is to cut off their nuts.

Take away the sex drive and all they want to do is lay around and pork out.

Those still needing a bit of titillating sex, at least the neutered males, can always turn into FUX News in the morning and hope one of their exotic dancers/anchors uncross their velvety thighs.

What else does a man need to exist on, except cheesecake and macaroni & cheese?

Duane said...

KiKz05.....Is that some of the proper and reasonable use of "free will" you were talking about?

Duane

kikz05 said...

duane
'KiKz05.....Is that some of the proper and reasonable use of "free will" you were talking about?'

wow.. no scripture quote....

if by that you mean; that i choose not to medicate myself into the zombie shuffle, to drive a car/make groceries.

yes :)

good job duane!
by the godz.. i think you've got it!

Justin_n_IL said...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/ap_on_go_pr_wh/meltdown_bush

"French President Nicolas Sarkozy and European Commission President Jose Manual Barroso are trying to convince Bush that now is a good opportunity to tighten and better coordinate control of the financial markets, in response to the economic crisis that has shaken markets around the globe."

Hey, how about everybody take a chip implant? This would be a perfect way to coordinate control of the financial markets and prevent future economic hardships. Right? Peace and safety, peace and safety.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

jibba jabba corncob pipe said...

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same god who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." Galileo

jed sanders said...

What more does a man need to exist on besides beans, pork shanks, and the latest Britney hit.

Duane said...

NO....leaving your cart at the end of the isle, so that you don't have to shuffle among the zombies.

Definitely the proper and reasonable use of free will alright.

Duane

no gods no masters said...

No one rules if no one obeys.

Kevin John said...

Justin,


OMG.It figures. I have to ask 'why are you here?'
To convert?
OK, you've done your penence and needless to say, wasted bandwith.
Now go back home, your mom's calling you.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Les but you have got it wrong this time .

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne251008proscons.asp

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne251008incoldblood.asp

AZ frm India

Anonymous said...

Things are bad at some places

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main40.asp?filename=Ne251008thefire_spreads.asp

AZ

Justin_n_IL said...

Kevin John,

You are in desperate need of decency. You have such hatred that you find it impossible to ignore opinions that you despise.

Visible said...

Well... A.Z. I'm assuming when the anonymity comes away from the initials that you are a Christian. I'd like to point out that both of your news sources in the post are 'opinion' pieces... basically; one's an opinion and one of them is an interview. There's a lot more to the story than that. The other one is about Muslims.

As for the Muslim side of it one needs to go back to what motivated the partitioning of Pakistan and take a look at the progression of events in Kashmir and other places. The situation is complex but both Muslims and Christians engage in missionary actions and have a deep hunger for political activities that do more than a little to cause events that on the surface may seem unrelated.

This is not to excuse the actions of certain individuals who are overpowered by mob frenzy; both the perpetrators and victims. This is also not to say that exoteric Hinduism is free of any of the rot that infests the other religions. This is also not to say that just about every religion on the fundamental side is not controlled by the devil in any one of his guises because all of this is so.

This is to say that for some length of time the Christian forces in India, spurred and financed by foreign elements have seized the reins of power at various levels and created the conditions of resentment and outrage that fester in India today.

The present situation came about because of the murder of a Hindu leader.

Here's a quote by Rajnath Singh

“Hindu anger and resentment against large-scale forcible conversions is the root cause of anti-Christian riots in both the states,” he said. He was convinced it could end only if strong measures were put in place to “stop forcible, or by allurement, conversions of Hindus by Christian missionaries”.

Here

I could put a great deal more in here and some of it more telling but you can find these things out on your own too. For some time the Christians in India have been reaching out for everything they can grab and causing dissension and resentment and unrest. What eventually happens is that people like them on the other side and well-intended people as well finally have enough of taking this kind of shit.

I am quite careful about what I say and one can have an opinion of events according to their pre-dispostion and according to how much they know and where they learned it from. So we could call what I have to say an opinion too. The Indians that I know are literate academics who are not members of the fundamental side of any of these groups but rather observers of the situation. One of them is a novelist and lives in a place where the Christians have been busy making life uncomfortable for the other residents.

God is one thing... and there my interest lies. Religion is a business with a military wing. I don't have any use for religion. However... when it comes to Hindus and Muslims and Christians it is the latter two who have the proven track record of fucking with others to get what they want.

Many aspects of fundamental Hinduism are as barbaric as Judaism which would be at the top of my list of bad apple satanists. Arguments can be made against all of them and opinions can form from every perspective around the great rotating disco ball of truth. However, I stand by what I said. Christians and militant interfering Muslims need to mind their own business and stay out of the lives of those with cultures of their own. All this converting and 'saving' of souls is bullshit based on making money and acquiring power. God holds no particular religion above the other but rather enquires into the heart of the practitioner as to intention and sincerity of passion and cause.

Anonymous said...

You're getting better at this Les.
Congratulations.
Tony

Kevin John said...

Justin

You're right. That was absolutely not decent.Horrible. A true slaughter of the English language. I am suprised Les even bothered to post it....

'Penence' should be 'penance' and 'bandwith' would be 'bandwidth'...
My spelling sucks sometimes.
Please forgive me?

Hugs.

Justin_n_IL said...

Kevin John,

WOW!!! I mean WOW!!! You are a real piece of work. Considering that you are 48 makes it clear that hatred is not a maturity(as in age) issue.

I'm not here to convert anyone. There are other people here who comment using the scriptures found in the Holy Bible just as I do. My comments are directed at such people. I have no desire to convert any non believer such as you.

It seems that your god is your belly and your mind . After checking out your profile it appears that you enjoy bowing down to money as well. You bow down to a visible god and I bow down to an invisible GOD. Such things are contrary to one another.

You show your true colors with your small childish rants directed at me. Something out of the jr. high playbook. Especially the "hugs" part.

If there were no other people here that mentioned JESUS or scriptures found within in the Holy Bible I would make no such comments. People who enjoy football like to talk about football. I enjoy the Holy Bible and I like to talk about it as well as a few others around here.

You hate anything to do with the GOD I worship. I don't know if that's because you have had to endure false Christians in close quarters or if it is simply your way of paying homage to your god. Either way I'm done responding to your childish rants.

Kevin John said...

Justin,

Aw come-on Jus... I was just kidding with ya! Put that fish down and listen:we miss you!
Won't you come out and play? I know, saving the world is a full-time job and it's understandable why you're so edgy.

Ya know, my stocks are down, Jesus is coming and it looks like we're in for a crappy Christmas, so why keep the good folks at Homeland Security busy reviewing silly squabbles like this, when they have so much more to look at here?

Besides,if you come play I'll even put in a good word for you with the three other girls in your town that you haven't yet asked (begged) for a date.
Sound good?

luvya

Kev

Justin_n_IL said...

Matthew 12

34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

36 But I say unto you, THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT thereof in the day of judgment.

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Vadim Rapp said...

Les, even though you are drawing all these dark pictures, you are still idealist. Why? Because you think that if "we" awake, something will change, we probably will manage some sort of revolution. You still think that there's conflict between this dark reality that you paint so accurately, and mindset of awakened people.

I think there's none. The people are awake all right. And this reality is not in any conflict with them, it's their natural world they have created consciously and continue. And as you rightly noted, this has been going on for centuries and worldwide. So, maybe the simpler explanation is that it's just the human nature? or at least Christian nature.

This note "you are all asleep, wake up" has been your belief for quite a number of articles. Maybe you might consider the "model" where this society is not asleep, but instead just has become what it is.

Anonymous said...

I do think there is a strong possibility you could be right vadim
Tony

notamobster said...

Vadim - I have always believed people are asleep. It's interesting to think that maybe they've just accepted what is. I know many people who are "head-in-the-sand"-ers. I also know there are people deliberately leading the world into an abyss, as the wantonly ignorant majority follow, ever-dancing to the pipers tune...

rocket j. squirrel said...

"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? It is because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or any partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind."
J.Krishnamurthi

Vadim Rapp said...

notamobster,

I think they did not just "accept" what it is, but actually have built it.

It's comfortable to think that there are evil "they", and then there are "us" against them, who maybe are somewhat asleep, but sure thing, if we awake, we will easily make the things right.

There was already quite a number of groups who at various times did not accept their reality and tried to change to some other way - they knew how to make things right. Communists, for one. Throughout the centuries, these efforts consistently failed. So, for whatever reason, this dark reality is probably the most stable state of it, whether we like it or not.

Even if we are asleep, and let's say, ok, we suddenly wake up - now what? what's the alternative? Every coin has two sides.

I'm not saying that the current system is OK, but the discussion must be constructive in order to be fruitful. For instance, it's obvious that the stock market has long lost the value for the society it had when it was created, and has turned into totallly irrelevant speculation, distorting the economy big time. At some point, it has to go away in the current form. But what's the alternative? Or, Less (and Ron Paul) says - abolish Federal Reserve. And...? something must be built on the place of the demolition.

notamobster said...

Vadim - The solution is not terribly perplexing. A sound money based economy. ( www.mises.org )Austrian economics. The reason gold/silver backed currencies have gotten such a rough ride, is the bankers don't want people to know the truth. They don't want us out of their web of debt. All of this bad debt, is exactly what they want. The bankers of the world want us to owe money. Every single dollar printed since 1913 has been issued at 3 percent interest. All of that interest is paid by the taxpayers (via IRS). If we eliminated the fed, and allowed Congress to control the regulation of currency again (backed by gold/silver) - we would no longer need an income tax! Tell the bankers to fuck off. They're not getting their usury anymore! To accomplish something like this would require popular revolt. The people are too dumbed down and fluoride numbed to accomplish anything like this, but I can dream...damnit.

Yes, we (collective) have created this problem, all problems. People don't want to work for stuff. If we had a sound money system, there wouldn't be global conglomerates.

Everyone wouldn't live in McMansions, and drive massive vehicles, because the credit restrictions would never have been loosened. Most of the major problems in this nation stem from the Federal Reserve act of 1913.

Abolishing it...and it alone, would eliminate the majority of our national problems.