Wednesday, May 28, 2008

Good News and Bad News and the Voices in the Wind.

I went without sleep for four nights until early Sunday morning. Once a year or so this happens to me and I turn into Goofy. It’s some kind of energy thing that just grows and grows until I crash. Then I sleep for about eighteen hours and the world turns all bright and bushy tailed again so...

Now that I am feeling near human and refreshed I said to myself, “Let’s find some good news that with match the tenor of my inner state. Do you have any idea how hard that is these days? I’m not talking about wishing and hoping and trying to believe in good news. By example, an Obama supporter might think the world is going to be fine again and the cornucopia is going to appear in the sky and everything anybody ever wanted is going to pour out upon the planet and we’ll all go dancing over the mountain tops on clouds of joy and... well, more joy?

Then if we were really lucky, the cornucopia would suck up everything we ever didn’t really want including all of the religious fundamentalists, bankers and politicians; nothing but serendipity going in both directions but...

Obama isn’t president yet, nor even his party’s candidate. Furthermore, all we have are the things he says he’s going to do and no one knows what he’s going to do once and if he becomes president. So that’s more of the ‘maybe it’s good news and maybe it isn’t good news’ kind of thing.

George W. Bush, -head and shoulders above any other possibility- by an enormously wide margin as the worst president America has ever seen, is going to be leaving office in about eight months and that... that will be one of the most wonderful things to ever happen in America but... it hasn’t happened yet so that can’t be good news either. Since that stone-cold evil, ambulatory dog turd had the White House stolen for him there’s been almost no good news of any kind. This post prelapsarian nightmare has gone on and on and on. It has been the longest eight years of my life at a time when time should be moving faster but isn’t. I guess I should be grateful to him for making me feel like I am living forever but I’m not. So that’s not good news either.

World situation; lots of words from unnamed sources indicating that things aren’t as bad as they seem, similar to someone telling me it’s rain when they piss in my ear. Actual world situation seems to have that SNAFU hi-lighting patina. No good news there... just words and according to George Soros, who definitely knows what he is talking about, the bottom is going to drop out of the economy and look like Rush Limbaugh’s ass in the shower; sorry about that image. I expect you’ve seen it often enough though; after all, it is the face he shows to the world. That doesn’t seem like good news.

Psychotic leaders and their handlers are all behaving like young marines in a Navy bar at 2:00 am. I used to hear that word realpolitick a lot... now I see it everywhere. The prevailing philosophy has become self-interest at any cost. This is amplified by manufactured scarcity of critical elements to world harmony where, in fact, there is no scarcity at all. That doesn’t qualify as good news. It is good news that things are not scarce and that they only seem to be, so that incomprehensibly rapacious, refugees from The Treasure of Sierra Madre can steal everything that isn’t nailed down and then come back with crowbars for the rest. No, that’s not good news.

Culturally, half of the world is walking around with earbuds and performing arcane rituals with their cell-phones that are breeding millions of brain tumors, the throbbing of which will provide a backbeat to the brain rape music in their heads. Everybody is looking in the mirror. The guys want to know if that David Cook hairstyle, which looks like rats shit in it and then Krazy-Glue was applied on top, is the bomb or not. The other half of the world is hungry and frightened and canon fodder for conflicts that are being manufactured for them by the people who make money off of this sort of thing so... once again, no good news.

I go to MSNBC and, let’s see... Bush lied. No? Really? Obama doesn’t know Auschwitz from Buchanwitz. Man that’s a really big issue in a mountains out of molehills sort of a way. There’s the usual collection of meaningless crapola for the McInformation Age but no good news I can see unless you’re a Laker fan. Nobody saved a baby from a well, world hunger is still a growth industry and Jesus is coming soon to a shopping center in your neighborhood.

FoxNews still looks like used and unflushed toilet paper. One of the many gifts bestowed upon us by the most evil man on the planet. Hmmm, that’s a hard call. Yes that’s a hard call indeed and certainly not good news.

Looking at America from a distance of time and years, I can only say that the most astonishing thing is the speed of the decline. It’s been about as fast as one of the World Trade Center buildings coming down and for reasons equally as ambiguous. Then there is the strange irony of an epidemic police presence increasing at the same rate as the value of what they are protecting is decreasing; still no good news.

I guess we’re going to start getting good news when the quality of the personnel on the planet improves. It’s hard to imagine good news in a place where the pressure from the top tells us that it’s every man for himself. There’s a mysterious law in the universe which says if there doesn’t appear to be enough of everything to go around then it’s musical chairs with baseball bats. When it appears that there is plenty to go around, which is the truth, natural generosity at all levels becomes more apparent.

I guess you get good news the way you get bad news. You create it based on the collective viewpoint of the people in the world; based on what they’re told and how they respond. We have got to do something about the small minority of powerful vampire bats that are de-harmonizing the world. We can’t do that until the few who aren’t walking around with their eyes taped shut can convince those who are to remove the tape.

Somehow we’ve got to motivate collectively for a finer expression. We seem to have lost touch with what is important as we scramble for the meaningless. As life becomes increasingly trivialized, the value of it and the consideration given to it, in respect of each other diminishes. It’s been said that the best way to forget about your own problems is to help somebody else. As hard as it may be to believe at this time, most of us want to do the right thing. Most of us are more than half-way decent people. It’s the compromising with the evils of the day that rob us of our humanity and we’ve got to stop that compromise. Somebody convinced the majority of us that the wrong way is the right way. As a result of that you are going to get bad news and lots of it. We have to reverse that process. The moment we stop making those ancient mistakes that our weakness and fear demands of us ...everything, everything changes.

We have to tell ourselves within the quiet of our own hearts that we are no longer going to cut deals with our oppressors so that they can keep on oppressing. We have to tell ourselves and convince ourselves and then we have to tell others. I’ll let you in on a little secret. It is actually harder to go along to get along than it is to stand up for the principles you believe in and you’re going to feel a lot better about it too.

We’ve got some powerful weapons. We have the conviction within that tells us what the right thing is and we’ve got the internet where, before that, we weren’t getting heard at all. When you do find some good news and when you hear the right thing start to consider it your new job to make sure that everyone else hears it too. Once we can manage the revolution within, the one without will take place automatically. That will be good news. That will be the best news of all.

Visible sings: 911 was an Inside Job by Les Visible♫ Good News and Bad News ♫
'Good News and Bad News' is track no. 9 of 10 on Visible's 2002 album
'911 was an Inside Job'


911 was an Inside Job by Les Visible


On a personal note I would like to apologize for my dreadful performance on the radio Sunday night; if you were unlucky enough to catch it. I hadn’t slept in days and then made the mistake of drinking way too much Valerian tea which made me sound like I belonged in the back of a police car or should be chased by men in white coats with nets.

I try to be on and do my job but accidents do happen. I shouldn’t have done the show when I could hardly sit up or keep my eyes open. Many men have learned to their great cost that you can erase years of good work in a very short period of time. This is a lesson to me and I’ll not soon forget it. Thank you for your understanding as well as the ongoing great support. I am much indebted to the reader for the inspiration and fine commentary that is one of the hallmarks of this site.

57 comments:

apollonian said...

"Good News" Is Weakness Of Conspiratorial Enemy/Adversary
(Apollonian, 28 May 08)

Thanks to Les Visible, and note "good news" is MIGHTY INTERNET is still there presenting all the incredible INFORMATION and DIALECTIC by which info is made evermore powerful, TRUTH evermore clear.

Now all we need is evermore INDUCTIVE LOGIC, and EPIPHANY of the people--as of original Christian Apostles.

"Once the impossible (suspects) is eliminated, the remainder, no matter how improbable, is necessary solution set"--Sherlock Holmes

Conspiratorial (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref. on Federal Reserve Bank (Fed) fraud/conspiracy) Enemy merely maintains difficult DEFENSIVE by means of HYPER-INFLATION of the MONEY SUPPLY, keeping all politicians, judges, et al. bribed/extorted.

Thus conspiratorial enemy suffers difficulty continuing--and the strain must and will tell, something having to give eventually--and fairly soon, too.

Observe then some worthwhile conclusions and observations: conspirators, who perpetrated 9-11, explicitly evince they now want to attack Syria and Iran--but this is difficult for them because of continuing MIGHTY INTERNET and amazing Christian strength of the people still.

CONCLUSION: Thus one notes: attack and destruction of Iran and/or Syria will entail DESTRUCTION OF PEOPLE'S CHRISTIANITY either as first step, or as accompanying stroke--something exceedingly difficult, even in prospect, though conspirators continue to persevere in all their devilish/satanic energy. So keep up all ur inexorable expo, Les Visible. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Village Idiot said...

Les,

As you might imagine, I've also been thinking about this kind of thing lately. Waiting for good news is obviously futile since even if there were some to report it would be eclipsed by all the bad, if covered at all. I think the only purpose of the news is just to tell us about the bad or bizarre or perverted or vacuous.

Partly it's a function of the medium itself, in this case mainly TV and the internet. Marshall McLuhan looked into this a long time ago, and we'd all benefit from reviewing his work periodically to remind us that these not-real images affect us at a profoundly deep level no matter our intellectual prowess in deconstructing them. I think a book written by Jerry Mander (his real name) called In the Absence of the Sacred should be required reading at all high schools. After reading (and understanding) it, anyone who hasn't already done so will throw their TV in the trash after dutifully smashing it first so no one else can be harmed by it's mentally-corrosive emanations.

Consider how easy it is to portray anger, hatred, and violence on TV or in movies, then consider how hard it would be to portray serenity, calm, happiness, and love. Love on TV turns into mere sex, since sex is visual and external and love is emotional/spiritual and internal. This focus on the external is more corrosive to culture than most of us realize.

Once we get to the point where our televisions are gone and we aren't surfing our lives away on the net, I think our job is then to create the good news we crave. We can notice Bad News entering our heads and creating dark thoughts and foul moods, so why wouldn't this form of communication work in reverse? In fact it does, in my experience.

Right now, the most corrosive force working against the dark Intent that's shaping the world's status quo is to be happy. I realize it's easier said than done, but we all have our bag of rocks to carry so we might as well pick them ourselves. This takes a staggering amount of mental discipline and requires shedding all that's extraneous and draining to our psyches. We must peel away the bullshit layer by layer, or possibly use it in our flower gardens if it's not too contaminated with heavy metals.

We can't get this happiness from other people, as divorce rates can attest. No, this kind of happiness is a fundamental awareness of our place in this Universe, which for us here on Earth is a physical boot-camp for the spiritual challenges to come. It's an energy frequency that comes from the inside and radiates outward, kind of like the TV. Also like the TV, it requires power. The power comes from shedding all that crusty buildup of bullshit and not dissipating our limited energy on pointless distractions. In taoist terms it's called non-contrivance; embodying the Uncarved Block. That is the Way.

But be warned: Happy people often piss off unhappy people, but that's part of the process. Happy people really piss off those seeking to propagate unhappiness just so they can profit from the plastic imitation variety they wish to sell us instead.

Go ahead and worry, but be happy anyway. The worry tends to wane with practice, and then you become one of the most subversive elements around wherever you happen to be.

The only way to push back darkness, sadness, and depression is to project their opposites, like chasing away shadows with a flashlight. Waiting for a dark room to lighten up all by itself will be a long, long wait.

Working on being happy is then working on saving the world, with the side benefit of saving ourselves in the process.


Peace and Happiness,

The Village Idiot

Visible said...

As usual V.I. your clarity is penetrating. I want to share with you something that Ang put over at Visible Origami earlier. It really hit me to read it because I had just had that experience over the course of the last week when forces, rising from who knows where, overran my borders and put me in a very unpleasant state for about five days. I mention some of it in the article. Anyway here's the comment.

"I had a funny thought yesterday. I thought, what if there really was nobody else in the whole world but me, and all the other people I think I see are there but they're more like holograms on some great big holodeck; and I'm supposed to overcome all of the myriad things I use as excuses and figure out how to get up and go save the world. That's my test. To break through the walls I've got that I subdue and limit myself with and just let it all bust loose and start walking East, because I just have to stop this war and the killing and all of the lies. And what if everybody had their own similar private world and the same task?

And then I thought, nah. Because I would just hate that so much. It would be so rude to think there was actually something inside me already that I just had to find and it could change the world that profoundly. It would make me a schlub for not letting it kick in already and get this thing done.

I finally realized that no one changes the world. The biggest job we all have is to get real with ourselves, to face our own being and scrutinize it and find the icky parts and coax them out and with kindness, eradicate them. Taming my inner monkey is an ongoing frustration. It seems the harder I try the more of a rascal it becomes. The fact of the matter is the monkey is at the wheel and I'm in the back seat trying to get it to drive me where I want to go, but it would rather dive into junk food and do things that make it feel sensually happy. I can't use logic on it, I can't try to brow beat it, and as of yet I haven't found what it takes to gain its cooperation on the biggest issues.

What I find so confusing is why we all have to spend so much of our time battling ourselves. Just to gain the inner cooperation we need in order to get our own houses in order is for many of us, an impossible dream. Lots of folks seem to me to just give in to the funny animal driving their life vehicles around, and they even laugh when they run over somebody.
Maybe there's nobody else in the car besides that evil little monkey. In my case I'm perfectly well aware that I'm in here along with Mr. Fuzzy because he drives me up the wall to the point of wearing me out. Why do you do this to me Mr. Monkey? It's every bit as bad for you as it is for me? Have you no common sense at all?

NO. He says. I don't and I don't have to. And he stomps on the accelerator pedal and laughs as I go through my 57th whiplash of the week.

My question to you would be, assuming that made any sense to you at all, what can one say to their inner monkey
to get it's willing, enthusiastic cooperation? Have you discovered any tactics or angles to come at it that have proven effective? It feels like when I was younger it was easier to gain the cooperation of my whole self and when that happens of course, a great deal can be accomplished. But these days all the parts of me are so tired and ineffective that I almost have to wonder if there's something interfering from the outside. It's hardly a complete stretch. But how likely it is, probably not so much.

At any rate, if you might have any insights to share along these lines please do. It's obvious to me that it does require more than my sheer will to solve this problem. Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Ang"

It's uncanny how much this dovetails with what was happening to me and the reflections are also spot on. I'm starting to think that there are actual weapons being aimed at us to alter our natural states. Well, of course there are and the television is one of them just as you have said.

It's more work these days but mostly because, as much as one reminds himself to surrender and hold to the light the might constantly divides against itself.

It's funny, giving up is not an option and giving up is the only option.

Ben There said...

Village Idiot, There's a meditation that I picked up somewhere along the way where you basically just sit there and cultivate the most intense feelings of peace and happiness that you can possible muster. Do this for a period of time and let it build and build then project it out in all directions around you, covering the entire planet then going infinitely out into space. Another similar one...just sit there meditatively and smile, but smile with your entire body. "Smile with your liver." Project it outwards in all directions.

I loved your commentary and couldn't agree more. There seems to be a "War On Happiness" being waged by entities that are powerless and penniless if members of society are content and happy.

You are also so correct about genuine happiness making the unhappy quite uncomfortable, even contemptous. So...another thing I've learned...often times it's best to keep your happiness to yourself (at least verbally).

The most important work any of us have to do is on our self.

Les - 4 days no sleep? That's intense. I had one night like that last week and that was bad enough. As always, beautiful work here.

Tex Long said...

"Many men have learned to their great cost that you can erase years of good work in a very short period of time."

One of my coaches made this clear when he said "Tex, any time I tell you 'Attaboy!' you just remember this here: it don't take but ONE 'Aw, SHIT!' to wipe out a thousand Attaboys."

You hang in there, Visible.

Frostwolf T'Firerose said...

Just a quick observation:

Rather than saying "eradicate" those elements of yourselves that are defenses, it might be better to invite them forward and submit them to be transformed through your own divine connections to the Source-of-All-That-Is, whatever you might choose to call that.

Think about the honorable work those elements have done for you in the past, protecting you from who-knows-what, even though it's a dysfunctional and childish mess. They are a part of your WORK, my friend. Part of your JOYOUS OBLIGATIONS, and to be embraced and given new work, like the Japanese soldiers who were marooned on Pacific Islands for decades, still believing that WW2 was still in process. Japan brought them back into their society and welcomed and honored them for the good fight they had offered for all that time and said, "Now it is time for us to find something else for you to do."

I've found that some of my own complexes are really just defenses that have not worked for, like ever. Some even inherited through my genes and from multidimensional awareness of other existences.

Be kind, Les V. You're a god amongst gods, and a man amongst men, and a citizen amongs citizen.

Frostwolf T'Firerose (I posted once before. I need to turn over a new leaf and accentuate the positive as the song goes. My Free Will Astrology column (Pisces) said "start the party now." Wir haben viel Spass, nicht wa?

Anonymous said...

Let`s all keep our fingers crossed that 8 months from now that mass murdering international terrorist #1 in the white house is no longer "the leader of the free world"(LOL!)

Whether obama is elected president and represents a change of course or is a continuation of usrael terrorism-who knows? It`s painfully clear that mcinsane and dillary are bush nuts that should be confined to a padded room and strait jacket just like dubya. Now there would be some good news!

If I lived in your country and could vote I would vote for Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura. At least they show some signs of intelligence and decency and courage.

Yes, the "western" (i.e. terrorist) economies will come to a screeching halt and america will be the first and hardest hit. And deservedly so. Maybe that will wake your zombified, programmed populace up. But I doubt it. More bad news.

If I can receive your radio program in my neck of the woods I will try to do so. Going 4 days without sleep would to too much for anyone. I would be out like a light after 2 days.

More power to you, Les. And please try to get a good nights sleep tonight.

Anonymous said...

Dont worry about your performance, we all fall down occasionally. I enjoy your writings and your ability to express that which is so difficult to express 'in these times'. I know I will fall down but I pray I can get up and I wont give up, ever. Best Wishes, Sundog
Skywatcher!

Nina said...

Village Genius says ...The power comes from shedding all that crusty buildup of bullshit and not dissipating our limited energy on pointless distractions. In taoist terms it's called non-contrivance; embodying the Uncarved Block. That is the Way...

I bask in the glorious freedom of these words. I didn't expect anyone to say this today, but here it is in black and white, so simple, so exact, it is everything we need to get by.
It is unfortunate that to internalize these words one must forcefully undergo a series of trials so painful and circuitous that others back off before they could even begin. In this way, the current concepts of how the world operates are kept afloat resulting in no change to the state of common consciousness.
Just how the world supposedly operates is the heartbeat of the entire exponentially multiplied sum of bad news. This is because of a failure to recognize our role in the Infinite. The Infinite is just too unweildy a concept to be easily presented by misguided adults to small children who then grow up misguided themselves, so we end up with social orders that concentrate on the personal. The personal is a barracade to higher understanding.
We are so much less than we think we are.
If we could start over, I suggest we start with the Infinite and work backwards to our living planet, all the way into the source of life. Along the way, we should avoid the mental prisons of scientific catagories, labels that define and reduce our journeys to trivia and premeditated language that obsfucates the obvious.
How did it happen that we got lost in a cul de sac? I am not sure, other than being sure we should be a lot furthur along by now, but it may be that the original translators of tribal dialects, our first spokespeople, irresponsibly or intentionally, mistranslated important concepts that could have made all the difference, likely for reasons of personal survival against predation.
Thank you VI, thank you Les. Very nice work today. I remain greatful.

liberty said...

,the good news of the moment
is that i found your site Visible
(thanks to Franklin)
aloha's to you
from the land where palm trees have
their way
while you sing of that "virgin sperm dancer"

Dodgy One said...

Kindle that little flame with the fuel of truth of love and when it gets to hot let it shine outward and all the forces of darkness will disappear. Shine on you bringers of light and together we will enlighten even the dark side of the moon :)

jim said...

Mr. Mirror:

You seem amazed by the sudden decline in the US. However, this country is just going through its death throes. The principal damage was done upon its people fifty years ago.

People in the US are fat, lazy, illiterate, good for nothing garbage that have lost all faith in the Infinite Creator. These goyim scum fully deserve their horrible fate, as the law of karma demands payment for stupidity. They had a chance to vote for Ron Paul or someone like him, but clearly chose more evil.

People are not much better than laboratory rats or Pavlovian controlled dogs. The Infinite Creator gave them all "free will", and yet they display none. Instead of reaching towards the sky, they grovel upon the dirt. The people of the US have truly become like shit eating swine. The barbacue is coming soon to a location near you!

Jim

MattyC in Hawaii said...

Here's how simple the solution is: I do it
I decide
I am source

Nothing else should have an influence on what a person thinks-or more importantly-feels. When the masses realize that they are SOURCE and relinquish VICTIMHOOD forever, we will see a drastic and lasting change for the better. Peace! Aloha! MattyC. in Hawaii

liberty said...

streams of lava
Peli bathes in the sea
Visible vog.
all night playing guitar in a Haiku garage
with friend who gave my achostic it's open tuning.
gone through Visible poetry maze
breath of his dance raves.

Visible said...

Liberty;

There are a few people that wouldn't say who they were while leaving such a revealing post which makes me think of Michael Welsh's place. I know you're not that girl I met when I was playing at the 20th anniversary of Woodstock because there are no palm trees and I didn't do the Virgin Sperme Dancer either.

Well, enjoy the mystery.

I'm of to France and other places for the next week people so I won't be doing much here but I will try to post the comments. I'll have the means to do that.

suffering the tyrants said...

Television is a festering dung heap of raw sewage just like the yellow, oil soaked, goverment stenographer, corporate whore, pocket press. Their job is to think for the soulless mass of droids who were born for nothing more than to like boots and say "yess massa do keep me safe my corporate pimp i love thee."

Visible said...

If your comments don't show up in a reasonable time after tomorrow morning please give me a little time. I'll be on the road here and there and not likely to be checking in. But there won't be and periods longer than two days when I won't be able to submit your comments. I'll see you in a week or so.

Love,

visible

nina said...

Have a safe and fulfilling journey. Come back soon. Bon voyage, peace, Jah Guide.
Love, Nina

Anonymous said...

Well written and well stated again my dear good man. The world we live in is such a perilous place as we walk on our hands and use our feet as hands. When will we uncover this plastic opaque veil from our eyes? I admire your writing style. Keep at it and ease up with he Valerian tea. Could Blue Mountain coffee from Jamaica do you any better? Bless from Jamaica

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all the best

notamobster said...

For those who wonder what the end game is, try this bit of background (references cited):

Brief History Of the Council on Foreign Relations

The CFR is the promotional arm of the Ruling Elite in the United States of America. Most influential politicians, academics and media personalities are members, and it uses its influence to assimilate it's control into American life. Its' "experts" write scholarly pieces to be used in decision making, the academics expound on the wisdom of a united world, and the media members disseminate the message.

To understand how the most influential people in America came to be members of an organization working purposefully for the overthrow of the Constitution and American sovereignty, we have to go back at least to the early 1900's, though the story begins much earlier (depending on your viewpoint and beliefs).

That a ruling power elite does indeed control the U.S. government behind the scenes has been attested to by many americans in a position to know. Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: "The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." In a letter to an associate dated November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote, "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." February 23, 1954,
Senator William Jenner warned in a speech: "Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded."

Baron M.A. Rothschild wrote, "Give me control over a nation's currency and I care not who makes its laws."

All that is needed to effectively control a government is to have control over the nation's money: a central bank with a monopoly over the supply of money and credit. This had been done in Western Europe, with the creation of privately owned central banks such as the Bank of England.

Georgetown professor Dr. Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's mentor while at Georgetown) wrote about the goals of the investment bankers who control central banks: "... nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole... controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."

The Bank of the United States (1816-36), an early attempt at an American central bank, was abolished by President Andrew Jackson, who believed that it threatened the nation. He wrote: "The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government, the distress it had wantonly produced...are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it."

Thomas Jefferson wrote: "The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution...if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Does that not describe the situation in America today?

The U.S. managed to do without a central bank until early in this century, when, according to Congressman Charles Lindbergh, Sr., "The Money Trust caused the 1907 panic, and thereby forced Congress to create a National Monetary Commission." Headed by Senator Nelson Aldrich, father-in-law of John D. Rockefeller, Jr., the Commission recommended creation of a central bank.
Though unconstitutional, as only "The Congress shall have Power...To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof..." (Article I, Section 8, U.S. Constitution) the Federal Reserve Act was passed in December 1913; ostensibly to stabilize the economy and prevent further panics, but as Lindberg warned Congress: "This act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth...the invisible government by the money power, proven to exist by the Money Trust investigation, will be legalized." The Great Depression and numerous recessions later, it is obvious the Federal Reserve produces inflation and federal debt whenever it desires, but not stability.

Congressman Louis McFadden, House Committee on Banking and Currency Chairman (1920-31), stated: "When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and industrialists...acting together to enslave the world...Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers but the truth is--the Fed has usurped the government."

Although called "Federal," the Federal Reserve system is privately owned by member banks, makes its own policies, and is not subject to oversight by Congress or the President. As the overseer and supplier of reserves, the Fed gave banks access to public funds, which enhanced their lending capacity.

Peter Kershaw, in "Economic Solutions" lists the ten major shareholders of the Federal Reserve Bank System as: Rothschild: London and Berlin; Lazard Bros: Paris; Israel Seiff: Italy; Kuhn- Loeb Company: Germany; Warburg: Hamburg and Amsterdam; Lehman Bros: New York; Goldman and Sachs: New York; Rockefeller: New York. (That most, if not all of these families just happen to be Jewish, you may judge the significance of yourself). The balance of stock is owned by major commercial member banks.

According to Devvy Kidd, "Why A Bankrupt America?" The Federal Reserve pays the Bureau of Engraving & Printing approximately $23 for each 1,000 notes printed. 10,000 $100 notes (one million dollars) would thus cost the Federal Reserve $230. They then secure a pledge of collateral equal to the face value from the U.S. government. The collateral is our land, labor, and assets... collected by their agents, the IRS. By authorizing the Fed to regulate and create money (and thus inflation), Congress gave private banks power to create profits at will.

As Lindberg put it: "The new law will create inflation whenever the trusts want inflation...they can unload the stocks on the people at high prices during the excitement and then bring on a panic and buy them back at low prices...the day of reckoning is only a few years removed." That day came in 1929, with the Stock Market crash and Great Depression.

One of the most important powers given to the Fed was the right to buy and sell government securities, and provide loans to member banks so they might also purchase them. This provided another built-in mechanism for profit to the banks, if government debt was increased. All that was needed was a method to pay off the debt. This was accomplished through the passage of the income tax in 1913.

A national income tax was declared unconstitutional in 1895 by the Supreme Court, so a constitutional amendment was proposed in Congress by none other than ...Senator Nelson Aldrich. As presented to the American people it seemed reasonable enough: income tax on only one percent of income under $20,000, with the assurance that it would never increase.

Since it was graduated, the tax would "soak the rich", ...but the rich had other plans, already devising a method of protecting wealth. As described by Gary Allen in his 1976 book "The Rockefeller File," "By the time the (16th) Amendment had been approved by the states, the Rockefeller Foundation was in full operation...about the same time that Judge Kenesaw Landis was ordering the breakup of the Standard Oil monopoly...John D...not only avoided taxes by creating four great tax-exempt foundations; he used them as repositories for his 'divested' interests...made his assets non-taxable so that they might be passed down through generations without...estate and gift taxes...Each year the Rockefellers can dump up to half their incomes into their pet foundations and deduct the "donations" from their income tax."

Exchanging ownership for control of wealth, foundations are also a handy means for promoting interests that benefit the wealthy. Millions of foundation dollars have been "donated" to causes such as promoting the use of drugs, while degrading preventive medicine. Since many drugs are made from coal tar derivatives, both oil companies and drug manufacturing concerns (many Rockefeller owned or controlled) are the main beneficiaries.

With the means to loan enormous sums to the government (the Federal Reserve), a method to repay the debt (income tax), and an escape from taxation for the wealthy, (foundations), all that remained was an excuse to borrow money. By some happy "coincidence," in 1914 World War I began, and after American participation national debt rose from $1 billion to $25 billion.

Woodrow Wilson was elected President in 1913, beating incumbent William Howard Taft, who had vowed to veto legislation establishing a central bank. To divide the Republican vote and elect the relatively unknown Wilson, J.P. Morgan and Co. poured money into the candidacy of Teddy Roosevelt and his Progressive Party.

According to an eyewitness, Wilson was brought to Democratic Party headquarters in 1912 by Bernard Baruch, a wealthy banker. He received an "indoctrination course" from those he met, and in return agreed, if elected: to support the projected Federal Reserve and the income tax, and "listen" to advice in case of war in Europe and on the composition of his cabinet.

Wilson's top advisor during his two terms was a man named Colonel Edward M. House. House's biographer, Charles Seymour, called him the "unseen guardian angel" of the Federal Reserve Act, helping to guide it through Congress. Another biographer wrote that House believed: "...the Constitution, product of eighteenth-century minds...was thoroughly outdated; that the country would be better off if the Constitution could be scrapped and rewritten..." House wrote a book entitled "Philip Dru: Administrator," published anonymously in 1912. The hero, Philip Dru, rules America and introduces radical changes, such as a graduated income tax, a central bank, and a "league of nations."

World War I produced both a large national debt, and huge profits for those who had backed Wilson. Baruch was appointed head of the War Industries Board, where he exercised dictatorial power over the national economy. He and the Rockefellers were reported to have earned over $200 million during the war. Wilson backer Cleveland Dodge sold munitions to the allies, while J.P. Morgan loaned them hundreds of millions, with the protection of U.S. entry into the war.

While profit was certainly a motive, the war was also useful to justify the notion of world government. William Hoar reveals in "Architects of Conspiracy" that during the 1950s, government investigators examining the records of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a long- time promoter of globalism, found that several years before the outbreak of World War I, the Carnegie trustees were planning to involve the U.S. in a general war, to set the stage for world government.

The main obstacle was that Americans did not want any involvement in European wars. Some kind of incident, such as the explosion of the battleship Main, which provoked the Spanish - American war, would have to be provided as provocation. This occurred when the Lusitania, carrying 128 Americans on board, was sunk by a German submarine, and anti-German sentiment was aroused. When war was declared, U.S. propaganda portrayed all Germans as Huns and fanged serpents, and all Americans opposing the war as traitors.

What was not revealed at the time, however, was that the Lusitania was transporting war munitions to England, making it a legitimate target for the Germans. Even so, they had taken out large ads in the New York papers, asking that Americans not take passage on the ship.

The evidence seems to point to a deliberate plan to have the ship sunk by the Germans. Colin Simpson, author of "The Lusitania," wrote that Winston Churchill, head of the British Admiralty during the war, had ordered a report to predict the political impact if a passenger ship carrying Americans was sunk. German naval codes had been broken by the British, who knew approximately where all U-boats near the British Isles were located.

According to Simpson, Commander Joseph Kenworthy, of British Naval Intelligence, stated: "The Lusitania was deliberately sent at considerably reduced speed into an area where a U-boat was known to be waiting...escorts withdrawn." Thus, even though Wilson had been reelected in 1916 with the slogan "He kept us out of war," America soon found itself fighting a European war. Actually, Colonel House had already negotiated a secret agreement with England, committing the U.S. to the conflict. It seems the American public had little say in the matter.

With the end of the war and the Versailles Treaty, which required severe war reparations from Germany, the way was paved for a leader in Germany such as Hitler. Wilson brought to the Paris Peace Conference his famous "fourteen points," with point fourteen being a proposal for a "general association of nations," which was to be the first step towards the goal of One World Government-the League of Nations.
Wilson's official biographer, Ray Stannard Baker, revealed that the League was not Wilson's idea. "...not a single idea--in the Covenant of the League was original with the President." Colonel House was the author of the Covenant, and Wilson had merely rewritten it to conform to his own phraseology.

The League of Nations was established, but it, and the plan for world government eventually failed because the U.S. Senate would not ratify the Versailles Treaty.
Pat Robertson, in "The New World Order," states that Colonel House, along with other internationalists, realized that America would not join any scheme for world government without a change in public opinion.

After a series of meetings, it was decided that an "Institute of International Affairs", with two branches, in the United States and England, would be formed.
The British branch became known as the Royal Institute of International Affairs, with leadership provided by members of the Round Table. Begun in the late 1800's by Cecil Rhodes, the Round Table aimed to federate the English speaking peoples of the world, and bring it under their rule.

The Council on Foreign Relations was incorporated as the American branch in New York on July 29, 1921. Founding members included Colonel House, and "...such potentates of international banking as J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, and Jacob Schiff...the same clique which had engineered the establishment of the Federal Reserve System," according to Gary Allen in the October 1972 issue of "AMERICAN OPINION."

The founding president of the CFR was John W. Davis, J.P. Morgan's personal attorney, while the vice-president was Paul Cravath, also representing the Morgan interests. Professor Carroll Quigley characterized the CFR as "...a front group for J.P. Morgan and Company in association with the very small American Round Table Group." Over time Morgan influence was lost to the Rockefellers, who found that one world government fit their philosophy of business well. As John D. Rockefeller, Sr. had said: "Competition is a sin," and global monopoly fit their needs as they grew internationally.

Antony Sutton, a research fellow for the Hoover Institution for War, Revolution, and Peace at Stanford University, wrote of this philosophy: "While monopoly control of industries was once the objective of J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller, by the late nineteenth century the inner sanctums of Wall Street understood the most efficient way to gain an unchallenged monopoly was to 'go political' and make society go to work for the monopolists-- under the name of the public good and the public interest."

Frederick C. Howe revealed the strategy of using government in a 1906 book, "Confessions of a Monopolist": "These are the rules of big business...Get a monopoly; let society work for you; and remember that the best of all business is politics..."

As corporations went international, national monopolies could no longer protect their interests. What was needed was a one world system of government controlled from behind the scenes. This had been the plan since the time of Colonel House, and to implement it, it was necessary to weaken the U.S. politically and economically.
During the 1920's, America enjoyed a decade of prosperity, fueled by the easy availability of credit. Between 1923 and 1929 the Federal Reserve expanded the money supply by sixty-two percent. When the stock market crashed, many small investors were ruined, but not "insiders." In March of 1929 Paul Warburg issued a tip the Crash was coming, and the largest investors got out of the market, according to Allen and Abraham in "None Dare Call it Conspiracy."

With their fortunes intact, they were able to buy companies for a fraction of their worth. Shares that had sold for a dollar might now cost a nickel, and the buying power, and wealth, of the rich increased enormously.


Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking Committee declared: "It was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence...The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all."

Curtis Dall, son-in-law of FDR and a syndicate manager for Lehman Brothers, an investment firm, was on the N.Y. Stock Exchange floor the day of the crash. In "FDR: My Exploited Father-In-Law," he states: "...it was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World-Money powers triggered by the planned sudden shortage of call money in the New York Market."

The Crash paved the way for the man Wall Street had groomed for the presidency, FDR. Portrayed as a "man of the little people", the reality was that Roosevelt's family had been involved in New York banking since the eighteenth century.
Frederic Delano, FDR's uncle, served on the original Federal Reserve Board. FDR attended Groton and Harvard, and in the 1920's worked on Wall Street, sitting on the board of directors of eleven different corporations.

Dall wrote of his father-in-law: "...Most of his thoughts, his political 'ammunition,'...were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the CFR-One World Money group. Brilliantly... he exploded that prepared 'ammunition' in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people--and thus paid off and retained his internationalist political support."

Taking America off the gold standard in 1934, FDR opened the way to unrestrained money supply expansion, decades of inflation--and credit revenues for banks. Raising gold prices from $20 an ounce to $35, FDR and Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau, Jr. (son of a founding CFR member), gave international bankers huge profits.
FDR's most remembered program, the New Deal, could only be financed through heavy borrowing. In effect, those who had caused the Depression loaned America the money to recover from it. Then, through the National Recovery Administration, proposed by Bernard Baruch in 1930, they were put in charge of regulating the economy. FDR appointed Baruch disciple Hugh Johnson to run the NRA, assisted by CFR member Gerard Swope. With broad powers to regulate wages, prices, and working conditions, it was, as Herbert Hoover wrote in his memoirs: "...pure fascism;...merely a remaking of Mussolini's 'corporate state'..." The Supreme Court eventually ruled the NRA unconstitutional.

During the FDR years, the Council on Foreign Relations captured the political life of the U.S. Besides Treasury Secretary Morgenthau, other CFR members included Secretary of State Edward Stettinus, War Secretary Henry Stimson, and Assistant Secretary of State Sumner Welles.

Since 1934 almost every United States Secretary of State has been a CFR member; and ALL Secretaries of War or Defense, from Henry L. Stimson through Richard Cheney.
The CIA has been under CFR control almost continuously since its creation, starting with Allen Dulles, founding member of the CFR and brother of Secretary of State under President Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles. Allen Dulles had been at the Paris Peace Conference, joined the CFR in 1926, and later became its president.
John Foster Dulles had been one of Woodrow Wilson's young proteges at the Paris Peace Conference. A founding member of the CFR...he was an in-law of the Rockefellers, Chairman of the Board of the Rockefeller Foundation, and Board Chairman of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

In 1940 FDR defeated internationalist Wendell Willkie, who wrote a book entitled "One World," and later became a CFR member. Congressman Usher Burdick protested at the time on the floor of the House that Willkie was being financed by J.P. Morgan and the New York utility bankers. Polls showed few Republicans favored him, yet the media portrayed him as THE Republican candidate.

Since that time nearly ALL presidential candidates have been CFR members. President Truman, who was not a member, was advised by a group of "wise men," all six of whom were CFR members, according to Gary Allen. In 1952 and 1956, CFR Adlai Stevenson challenged CFR Eisenhower.

In 1960, CFR Kennedy (who was probably killed because he had the courage NOT to go along with all their plans) CFR Nixon. In 1964 the GOP stunned the Establishment by nominating its candidate over Nelson Rockefeller.
Rockefeller and the CFR wing proceeded to picture Barry Goldwater as a dangerous radical. In 1968 CFR Nixon ran against CFR Humphrey. The 1972 "contest" featured CFR Nixon vs. CFR McGovern.

CFR candidates for president include George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Edmund Muskie, John Anderson, and Lloyd Bentsen. In 1976 we had Jimmy Carter, who is a member of the Trilateral Commission, created by David Rockefeller and CFR member Zbigniew Brzezinski with the goal of economic linkage between Japan, Europe, and the United States, and: "...managing the world economy...a smooth and peaceful evolution of the global system." We have also had (though his name strangely disappears from the membership list in 1979) CFR director (1977-79) George Bush, and last but not least, CFR member Bill Clinton.

They have all promoted the "New World Order," controlled by the United Nations. The problem is that "...the present United Nations organization is actually the creation of the CFR and is housed on land in Manhattan donated to it by the family of current CFR chairman David Rockefeller," as Pat Robertson describes it.
The original concept for the UN was the outcome of the Informal Agenda Group, formed in 1943 by Secretary of State Cordell Hull. All except Hull were CFR members, and Isaiah Bowman, a founding member of the CFR, originated the idea.
The American delegation to the San Francisco meeting that drafted the charter of the United Nations in 1949 included CFR members Nelson Rockefeller, John Foster Dulles, John McCloy, and CFR members who were communist agents--Harry Dexter White, Owen Lattimore, and the Secretary-General of the conference, Alger Hiss. In all, the Council sent forty-seven of its members in the United States delegation, effectively controlling the outcome.

Since that time the CFR and its friends in the mass media (largely controlled by CFR members such as Katherine Graham of the "Washington Post" and Henry Luce of" Time, Life"), foundations, and political groups have lobbied consistently to grant the United Nations more authority and power. Bush and the Gulf War were but one of the latest calls for a "New World Order."

Admiral Chester Ward, a member of the CFR for over a decade, became one of its harshest critics, revealing its inner workings in a 1975 book, "Kissinger ON THE COUCH." In it he states "The most powerful cliques in these elitist groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and national independence of the United States."
Most members are one-world-government ideologists whose long- term goals were officially summed up in September 1961 State Department Document 7277, adopted by the Nixon Administration: "...elimination of all armed forces and armaments except those needed to maintain internal order within states and to furnish the United Nations with peace forces...by the time it (UN global government) would be so strong no nation could challenge it."

Within the CFR there exists a "much smaller group but more powerful...made up of Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in control of the global government ...This CFR faction is headed by the Rockefeller brothers," according to Ward.

What must be remembered is that this is not some lunatic- fringe group...these are members of one of the most powerful private organizations in the world: the people who determine and control American economic, social, political, and military policy. Members' influence and control extends to "leaders in academia, public service, business, and the media," according to the CFR 1993 "Annual Report."
Their founding they describe as: "American Participants in the Paris Peace Conference decided that it was time for more private Americans to become familiar with the increasing responsibilities and obligations of the United States...there was a need for an organization able to provide for the continuous study of U.S. foreign police for the BENEFIT OF ITS MEMBERS (emphasis mine) and a wider audience of interested Americans."

They sponsor hundreds of programs, where members "exchange views with American and foreign officials and policy experts... discuss foreign policy issues...consider international issues of concern to the business community" (Corporate business), and "...affiliated groups of community leaders throughout the United states...meet with decision makers."

The CFR states that it is "host to many views, advocate of none," and it "has no affiliation with the U.S. government." No, no affiliation at all, if you don't count: "A Council member was elected president of the United States...Dozens of other Council colleagues were called to serve in cabinet and sub-cabinet positions," as they describe it in "Foreign Affairs," along with many members of Congress, the Supreme Court, the Joint Chiefs, the Federal Reserve, and many other Federal bureaucrats.

They are not AFFILIATED with government, they ARE the government, in effect.
One re-occurring view was stated in the 50th anniversary issue of "Foreign Affairs," the official publication of the CFR. In an article by Kingman Brewster, Jr. entitled "Reflections on Our National Purpose." Our purpose should be, according to him, to do away with our nationality, to "take some risks in order to invite others to pool their sovereignty with ours..."

These "risks" include disarming to the point where we would be helpless against the "peace-keeping" forces of a global UN government. We should happily surrender our sovereignty to the world government in the interests of the "world community."
Today we have the spectacle of Spc. 4 Michael New, a U.S. soldier in Germany who refuses to wear the uniform of the UN, facing an "administrative discharge." He states rightly that he swore an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution, not the United Nations. Many other Americans have taken that same oath, such as myself, and believe it is our sworn duty still to defend the Constitution, since an oath sworn before God must be fulfilled. (Why else do we swear to tell the truth in our courts, or when taking public office?) Is it a crime these days to actually BELIEVE in God and the oath that was taken?

Meanwhile, others who attempt to destroy the Constitution and our sovereignty are given honors and position...At least they are not hypocrites...only supremely arrogant.
"In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned assault..." in the opinion of Richard N. Gardner, former deputy assistant Secretary of State in "Foreign Affairs," April 1974.
James Warburg, son of CFR founder Paul Warburg, and a member of FDR's "brain trust," testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950, "We shall have world government whether or not you like it--by conquest or consent."
Is this an AMERICAN speaking, or a dangerous lunatic? Who is this "We" who threatens to CONQUER us?
They are a group that actually has the power to do it, and is doing it every day, bit by bit.

CFR Members in the mass media, education, and entertainment push their propaganda of "humanism" and world brotherhood. We should all live in peace under a world government, and forget about such selfish things as nationalities and patriotism. We can solve our own problems. We don't need God, or morals, or values: it's all relative, anyway, right?...Because if we actually had some moral character and values, we might be able to discern that these people are actually EVIL.
The Bible says that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil (1 Tim. 6:10). These people are evil because they love money and power, and greed drives them to do anything to achieve their goals. They have lost all morality and conscience, and believe such concepts, as well as our Constitution, "outdated".

THAT is insanity--to have more wealth than can be spent, and still it is never enough. They have to control governments, start wars, conspire to rule the world; least the "common people" wake up to how they have gained their wealth, take it away from them, and demand that they pay the price for their crimes.
That is why they constantly pit us one against the other, with "Diversity," Affirmative Action, and other programs,...black against white, men against women, rural against urban, ranchers against environmentalists, and on and on...least we look in their direction.

We The People are held to a much higher standard. If we threaten the President or a public official, we are charged with a crime...yet the One-World-Gang can threaten the Constitution and the liberties of We The People, the sovereign rulers of this nation, and nothing is said or done.
Perhaps they do not fear what Man can do to them... they believe they have arranged everything, and their power and wealth will prevail in this world. However, those among them who have sworn an oath before God to uphold and defend the Constitution: the President, members of Congress, and the military; may find one day that they do indeed have something to fear.
List of CFR Members
Colonel House, the fallen angel, still has relatives controlling the CFR. Karen Elliot House is Chairman of the Membership Committee, and a member of the Nominating Committee, along with Jeane Kirkpatrick. David Rockefeller is now "Honorary Chairman of the Board", after serving as Chairman 1970-1985; and "Director Emeritus," after serving as a Director 1949-1985. Peter G. Peterson is Chairman, Admiral B. R. Inman is Vice Chairman, while Thomas Foley and Jeane Kirkpatrick are Directors serving on the Executive Committee.

These "private citizens" have access to government officials and policy makers as often as they wish, yet the results of their meetings can only be given to other government officials, corporate officers, or law partners. Participants are forbidden to transmit an attributed statement to any public medium, such as newspapers or TV, where there is "risk that it will promptly be widely circulated or published," as the "Annual Report" puts it.
Should not OUR public officials be forbidden to meet in secret with private groups? Public officials should only be allowed to discuss public business and policy in a public forum. The Public...remember US?

There is much more to say about this group and their plans for America. Gary Allen, in "The Rockefeller File," states that they are behind the many regional government plans, which would abolish city, county, and state lines, leaving us at the mercy of federal bureaucrats; and behind the push for "land use" controls. They want "federal control of everything. Since they intend to control the federal government..."
There are also the many allegations of involvement in gun running, drug smuggling, prostitution and sex slaves; and the many mysterious assassinations and "suicides" of witnesses and others who get too close to the truth...but that is another story.

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notamobster said...

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socks@fmtc.com said...

News ? If there weren't no bad news, there'd be no news at all. You're right about the decline of the United States and you're also right about George Bush hasn't left office yet and isn't going to. Certain things have to get done before George can end his reign of terror upon the American people.

We have to form a more perfect Union with Canada and Mexico, and it wouldn't be possible if a government of the people,by the people, for the people were allowed to continue, so "we the people" must come an abrupt halt. We do that by bringing the economy to screeching, sudden halt and take away the life's blood of the American people....[the almighty Fed Reserve Note] Then we can suspend elections, suspend Constitutional government, and form that more perfect union to settle things down so they can go on to bigger and better things. Like causing all to receive the mark were no man might buy or sell....etc and etc. So we still have a ways to go yet.

Once you know "who they are" in the Whitehouse and the Congress of the United States, the mystery to MYSTERY BABYLON is no longer a mystery.

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen,is fallen and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and is a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. .... For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies...and I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues....For her sins have reached unto heaven, and GOD hath remembered her iniquities.

The end is down the road aways....And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more in thee; for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

In order to unravel the the ravel of St. John and his revelations, once must first know "who they are" in the Whitehouse and the Congress of the United States, otherwise it's just a bunch of Greek words. They are among the Synagogue of satan Jesus warns us of.

The only good news Les.....the Red Wings are still up 2 games to 1 with their series against the Penquins for the quest to "Lord Stanly's Cup".

Duane

The Village Idiot said...

Wow, "Jim" sure is a... Um, I'll try to avoid going all ad hominem all of a sudden, as was politely requested in the text above the comment box that I can see as I write this.

Anyhow, when people speak or write like that they remind me of the stereotyped American they are whining about, and I can't decide if it's truly ironic or merely banal. At least it seems harmlessly amusing until I realize it means we can't look beyond the U.S. for ideas and solutions either, and so I guess it means we're all gonna die while pointing fingers at each other.

Perhaps Jim of the Holy Blameless Nation could enlighten the rest of us as to his brilliant solutions to whatever he thinks needs fixing. Surely he's not all vitriol and no ideas, is he? What flavor of kool-aid would you have us drink, Jim?

-The Village Idiot

P.S.- The kind words about my comment are appreciated, thanks.

Elizabeth said...

As for what to do about the madness, I read an article a couple of years ago that made me leave my home and hit the streets. It's a powerful, healing feeling for me and others to go public with our dissent every weekday for an hour (rush hour) in downtown Ann Arbor, Michigan. I stood alone only for a day or two, then others joined. It's been going on for over 2 years. We talk to a lot of pedestrians. We get ignored, yelled at, scorned, and all the rest. People want us to answer questions. Some honk in approval but won't stand with us. Such a variety of experiences out there on the street. We wish 1000's would join us. Usually we number about 8. Here's the article that moved me: http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0305-29.htm

nobody said...

Ang has one monkey? I have a tree full of them, ha ha. And they won't shut up! Mind you, I always viewed this as the self. It certainly ain't anyone else. The secret is, and I've yet to learn it, is that there is no self. If you're into Buddha that is.

There is no tree, there are no monkeys, there is no self. We are one with the universe. If we think otherwise, it's a delusion. One day I will understand this instead of just yapping about it. Yoroshiku.

Anonymous said...

One piece of good news.

I've just come across your 'Bush - Clown Prince of Satanism' piece over at:

www.gnosticliberationfront.com

You're popping up everywhere now, les. Excellent!

landers

Greg Bacon said...

Notice that a cornucopia looks like an inverted tornado funnel?

Perhaps that's what the Bush/Cheney Junta's version of a cornucopia is, an out of control tornado that is sucking the wealth, life and blood out of not only America, but the world at large.

There's no use to try and be like Dorthy from the Wizard and click your heels together to escape this madness, since the only permissible heel clicking allowed these days is when you click your heels and whip off a smart salute to the various goon squads rampaging about the world, stealing everything that shines, like gold and oil.

Led by the "Tinman" without a heart, Cheney the Dick and closely followed by that Scarecrow without a brain, Bush the Unfit.

All we cowardly Lions need to do is to find our courage.

DodgyOne said...

Here in a nut shell is my understanding of where we are at and how we got here.

No doubt a lot will laugh at the idea that gods so called chosen people would be following satan instead and a lot will say that what israel is doing has nothing to do with religion. Some will even say that politics and religion are two separate issues that should not be mixed.
But the thing is that Israel was created as an attempt to fullfill ancient prophesies that say that 6 million jews will be killed before God creates a new Israel from which he will rule the world. So having had a lot of jews killed in the second world war, the zionists decided that it had to be a figure of 6 million so that they could be fullfilling the prophesy and create an Israel themself. But no it was not the 6 million prophesied, that has yet to come. God scattered the jews as they have rejected his ways. And now they continue to reject God by tring to create Israel themself in direct defiance of Gods punishment upon them, they expect that thier messiah will come once they have build a greater Israel. They refuse to except that they are no long chosen and that they are building an Israel from which satan's anti-christ will attempt to rule. How foolish it is to expect god to rule from a place created by men who sacrifice their fellow men to create a false city of god.
The God of Love will allow the destruction of such an evil abomination and then HE will create a new city not man.

So then as this attrocity is being hatched the zionist con the wannabe christians into believing the same crap and that killing the locals is somehow an exception to the rule and is justified as being according to gods plan. Hence the reason why USa joins with israels zionist is because they too have believed the lies and corrupted themselves and rejected all that christ stands for inorder to build a fake city of god.

Things are unfolding as prophesied but so many are on the wrong page and have ignored the fundiments of what god expects and that is that we should Love one another, not Kill cheat and hate one another.

Duane said...

To Dodgyone ! I rather enjoyed Jim's version of the "nutshell". You, like so many others actually believe they are Jews in control of Israel.

They are not the seed of Abraham,Issac,& Jacob, they are not the Chosen Ones. They are the children of disobedience who have hidden themselves in the governments around the world.

"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of satan".

Just because they say they are Jews doesn't mean they are. The ones you have to watch are the ones like Bush and Cheney, "who say they aren't" but ???????.

The real "synagogue of satan"

Duane

Nina said...

Well, its about time. Glad you are back.
Love, Nina

apollonian said...

"There is no tree, there are no monkeys, there is no self. We are one with the universe. If we think otherwise, it's a delusion. One day I will understand this instead of just yapping about it."

-Nobody

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Beware Dis-Honesty Of Pharisaics Preaching Un-Real "Selflessness"
(Apollonian, 5 Jun 08)

And I submit, good comrades, citizens, and all fellow humans, above quote by "nobody," the Pharisee, is precisely the problem: PEOPLE REFUSE TO FACE/HEED REALITY and that precious "TRUTH" of Christian New Testament (NT) Gosp. JOHN 8:32.

And never forget, above lie by "nobody" about "no self," one is required to repeat over and over--forever--until perhaps one is psychotic enough finally to actually believe it, is FOUNDATION OF COMMUNIST red fascism by which Jew bolsheviks (masterminds, financiers thereof, and predecessors) exterminated volk of gentile nations as in South Africa in 1898-1901, Armenia 1915, Russia and Ukraine in 1920s-30s, Germany of 1940s, etc.

Truth then, and HONESTY is to effect we're hopelessly full of self, selfish--as that's necessarily sinful state of our God-given existences--which cannot be wished away by any such dishonesty and Pharisaism as "nobody" pretends to sell by means of mystic (subjectivist) invocation of Buddha.

Concerning "one-ness" with universe--note that is necessary and mere platitudinous truth REGARDLESS OF pretense to self or not, despite "nobody's" DIS-HONESTY and hog-wash. For God and Universe both have perfect responses/reaction to nobody's self-delusion too, regardless, never doubt.

And the only proper course then, politically/socio-biologically, is to seek and strive for that rational selfishness of Adam Smith, Tom Hobbes, and John Locke, though it may be difficult to achieve and retain, so subject to CORRUPTION as it occurs in historic CYCLIC-type fashion, as in "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler.

For the practical, immediate, direct problem is COUNTERFEIT fraud/scam (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref. on Federal Reserve Bank (Fed)) and the reign of Judeo-conspiracy (see TheNewAmerican.com for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy) behind ZOG-Mammon presently waging Orwellian "perpetual war."

Hence most rational course is to work in accord w. TRUTH and objectivity, hence rule-of-law which removes such COUNTERFEIT fraud/conspiracy, the practical root cause of things fascist, which "nobody" effectively AND DIS-HONESTLY works to retain with his invocation of delusion, moralism-Pharisaism ("selflessness"), subjectivism, and LIES--as to effect of aforementioned, "no self," excuse for Jew bolshevik fascists and mass murderers--as we see so plainly.

CONCLUSION: Hence then again: the proper and necessary goal and IDEAL is not idiotic "no self"--BUT RATHER HONESTY, and acceptance of truth and reality of self and sin which then simply needs most manful, HONEST reason, humanity, thus rule-of-law which overthrows criminal conspiracy founded upon such dis-honesty of Pharisaics like "nobody," imposed then upon poor dupes, fools, and suckers of over-populated humanity. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

DodgyOne said...

Diane :

I did mention the jews but if you read a little bit more carefully you will see that I blame the zionists, not the jews.
A simple mistake I guess depending on where your head is at ??

nobody said...

I wonder what might be the least I could write that would make the Apoplectic behave as he is named? Might it be a full stop? In a spirit of scientific enquiry (and as an exercise in minimalism) let's try -

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kikz05 said...

@anon/hermespress

very nice site.. been digging there all day :)

many thanks*

apollonian said...

Worm-Like "Nobody" Persists In Squirming
(Apollonian, 6 Jun 08)

Awwwwwwww--gee whiz, but poooooower "nobody" wants to make Apollonian "behave."

"Nobody," what's ur real problem, comrade? U made a thesis statement, did u not?--regarding ur thematic "selflessness."

So what's the matter?--did I quote u correctly or not?--don't I have right to disagree w. u upon ur thesis without u calling me "apoplectic"?--oh, u cruel Pharisee.

I mean, why can't u just carry on a decent, substantial dialectic, comrade?--like a rational human being?--like they tried to teach us to do, starting in kindergarten?

"Nobody," u need to grow up, son. If u post a thesis, u should be prepared to defend it in manful way and not complain like some pathetic hurt child.

Pushing selflessness is simply (a) absurd, and (b) thoroughly DIS-HONEST. And why shouldn't u be required to say something as to ur presumptuous "improvement" upon the work of men who are far superior to u for logic and argument like Adam Smith, Hobbes, and Locke? U don't think those excellent fellows understood the Buddha?

U should be man enough to speak to the issue and forthright defense of ur selfless "ideal"--or otherwise stick to ur own blog and mutual strokings with fellow subjectivists, "silverfish," "Tony," and "kikz05."

Truth is ur real problem isn't self or selflessness, basically; rather it's human REASON itself, thence human virtue of HONESTY--which u lack, u little alcoholic baby--that's real issue, eh?

For I note u understand ur problem for absurdity and "nihilism," u facing the necessity to acknowledge some type of basic, under-lying reality (ChurchOfNobody.blogspot.com, "Don't believe...," 13 May 08), invoking the "butcherbird" and perception thereto.

So tell us: if u grant the perception of butcherbird, do u acknowledge abstraction thereto of birds in general?--how about all animals?

But then u want to deny the reality of universals (thus all human thought and reason, actually), especially validity of race which u call "arbitrary construct," nevermind such denial of race goes against all humanity, white and non-white too.

But I rather enjoy to preferring to ambush u at pass of basic logic itself as I pt. out u MUST BE racist of some sort as u're necessarily loyal to some race, mixed or non-mixed, it being AXIOMATIC, a necessary, mandatory matter of either-or. And I distinctly remember u invoking logic against me once before on ur own blog--I even acknowledged ur pt. on the occasion

But "nobody" u're really just a slimey COWARDLY alcoholic, not to mention Pharisee, refusing to be pinned down, crying and complaining like a baby. U want to post on a blog without being questioned or criticised, sensitive little twerp, so utterly incapable of dialectic, capable only of declaiming, patronizing, and mutual strokings with fellow subjectivists, mystics, and mental midgets (like "kikz05").

Thus we see how ur brand of "nihilism" works--it's selective (just like a little baby). In general, u're willing to acknowledge SOME kind of reality (for u know u'd be too absurd if u didn't). But then u want to pick and choose as to what u're willing to accept. Thus for race u declare it's "arbitrary construct"--and same then goes for any concept or abstraction whatsoever, including justice, and all/any truth.

And u justify ur gross dis-honesty (and childishness) upon the Buddha, oh u filthy alcoholic slime. Then additionally, u complain Apollonian is such egoist, etc.--u never facing the facts, never speaking to the issue, u cowardly Pharisaic, so grossly dis-honest, so contemptuous of truth and the objective reality (entailing all the necessary and genuinely demonstrable abstractions based thereupon, including race) which necessarily underlies.

For what is race but mere extended family?--is family an "arbitrary construct" too?

CONCLUSION: "Kikz05" has a genuine excuse, being consistently and palpably feeble of mind, quite demonstrably schizoid, but u, "nobody," u're an authentic, clever little bastard, as I pt'd out earlier, and if u won't talk turkey, well, by golly, maybe u'll do some fancy squirming like a worm for us on Les Visible's blog which u like to frequent in order to display and legitimize ur pretended skill as man of literacy, etc. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Visible said...

A. no one shines when they crawl into the cistern. Nobody is one of my favorite people. Play nice. He has a point. Personally, I don´t argue with people here anymore than I do in a bar. If someone doesn´t get what I´m asaying (no misspelling there.) I figure they're not paying attention; god help them if they take it outside.

apollonian said...

Honesty, Truth Versus Moralism
(Apollonian, 6 Jun 08)

Les, it's ur blog, comrade. I think u have great thing truly, a forum where we racists can confront subjectivistics (and Pharisees) such as "nobody."

It simply stands to reason no one will (deliberately) offend the editor himself lest he lose that venue. But I do think u've been quite fair lately, so I must admit ur demand doesn't seem too onerous.

Besides, I don't want to discourage "nobody" either as I prefer to exhaust him for all his possible or imaginable substantial arguments, of which he actually has very few if any at all. "Nobody" actually just features a "mighty-white" -type moralism (Pharisaism) founded upon nothing (utterly absurd, dis-honest, and impossible "selflessness") at all--true "nihilist" he is.

Don't forget these people ("anti-racists") ALWAYS want to pretend they're "superior" not only in moralistic fashion, but otherwise also, as for "reason," which they never can prove--like "kikz05." We racists merely have HONESTY going for us; we admit we're sinners.

CONCLUSION: But now Les, since u've seen fit to stick up for comrade "nobody," why not say a word or two for the "point" u mentioned? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Visible said...

hey pilgrim.

I stick up for you too. plenty of people don´t want you appearing here but i see truth i8n things you say. i just don´t agree with you all the time, I just don´t.
i have to admit that lately I have had less love for the jews as a people than I can possibly say but I just can´t close the door on any group of people. I´m a living incarnation of the one who dances the tandava and all you have to do is take some mushrooms with me to see it or let me know if you want to talk to someone who has.

It lives in me so I cannot be cavalier with thoase still on the wheel. We all get born a jew and a palestinian, a woman, gay... you name it. Listen up brother... life is a spiral staircase... don´t piss over the railing and remember, nobody is your brother; pun intended.

nobody said...

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apollonian said...

"i have to admit that lately I have had less love for the jews as a people than I can possibly say but I just can´t close the door on any group of people."

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Jew Psychopaths, Co-Conspirators Deserve Justice Critically, Urgently
(Apollonian, 7 Jun 08)

Well okay Les, but I thought u'd said "nobody" had a pt.--but then u neglected to say what it was. Remember "nobody" himself was one who repudiated being "nice" in his own blog, "No Starvation Here," 28 Apr 08, at 4:28 PM, 29 Apr.

I then worked hard to construct an accurate, informative dialectic regarding "nobody's" thought (and psychosis, as it were)--which is thematic for what's fundamental problem w. world, which is what, presumably, we're all discussing and considering here on ur most excellent blog.

World is suffering fm repudiation of TRUTH, literally, this especially in guise of "moralism"-Pharisaism--precisely as advocated by "nobody," Pharisee subjectivist, who calls his subjectivism "nihilist," invoking Buddha.

Note then "nobody's" "technique" for such Pharisaism (moralism): constantly, insistently LYING TO HIMSELF about this absurd selflessness, hoping thereby to make it come true or at least to making himself think it's true or possible or feasible or virtuous.

And my pt. is consistent w. Christian honesty and truth: "nobody" is (a) absurd and unreal for his pretended virtue of "selflessness"; (b) further, he's DIS-HONEST pretending it (selflessness) can or should be seriously applied in any useful manner, idiotically using such brainless "virtue" for analysis of white race and culture, for example (see his disgusting "...Greatness of White People," 4 May 08 at ChurchOfNobody.blogspot.com).

Regarding ur above quotation, note those "Jews" should be seen for EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE, by their own definition, in their own Talmud (see RevisionistHistory.org, TruthTellers.org, and Come-and-hear.com for good Talmudic expo)--they're a bunch of psychopaths, serving as soldiers, in svc to their psychopathic, anti-human rabbis.

Thus Jews are topmost tier of all organized criminal activity within the world--literally, beginning with that topmost "banking"-COUNTERFEITING fraud (see RealityZone.com for expo/ref. on Federal Reserve Bank (Fed)), then moving down the sociologic stratographic hierarchy.

Confirming this Jew organized criminal conspiracy is simplest matter of socio-biology (see KevinMacDonald.net), and it's why these topmost Jews now have sought so diligently to outlaw TRUTH, quite literally, calling such truth "hate." For indeed, doesn't telling truth about criminals and murderers properly generate proper hatred of such murdering Jews?--and isn't it GOOD to hate such Jew murderers?

So Les Visible, due to ur excellent blogsite and my own diligent blogging, dialectic, and analysis, we arrive at solid theoretic/abstract real solution to world's most urgent, critical problem in general, confirmed for particular case/instance ("nobody"): SUBJECTIVISM in general, and Pharisaism-moralism specifically, precisely the kind which works to destroy TRUTH and honesty, as Jews want to outlaw such truth and its dialectic/expression--just like the schizoid, "kikz05," is so eager to lobbying Apollonian be censored.

For note hatred of objectivity, truth, honesty, hence reason and racism, as of "nobody" and "kikz05" is precisely, exactly what Judeo-conspirators most want and need.

Consider Les Visible, to extent u're honest: only Jews not aware of active Judeo-conspiracy are lower-level, more working-class -type Jews who are (or pretend to being) "out of the loop." But observe these lower-level Jews nonetheless defend their fellow Jews who are most active criminals and conspirators--is this to be tolerated?--should it continue to be tolerated?

Thus Jews are only worthy of condemnation on general class/race basis--as they're all Talmudists (or loyal thereto) by their own definition, again, and there cannot be "good" Talmudists anymore than there are good psychopaths.

CONCLUSION: So Les Visible, truth and honesty evermore beckon for u to "CLOSE THE DOOR," indubitably, upon Jews no less than u'd close door on criminals and murderers--for in final analysis, that's all Jews are, enabled by their dupes and fellow subjectivists among gentiles, like "nobody," whom Jew masterminds so brilliantly take advantage of. The more u urself continue to hesitate, Les Visible, the more these Judeo-conspirators take advantage of u too, don't forget. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

kikz05 said...

"-just like the schizoid, "kikz05," is so eager to lobbying Apollonian be censored."

what truth do you find in this, les?

Anonymous said...

Sunday, 8 June
I was wondering why I hadn't seen anything posted by Les since last month, so I checked out 'later comments' to see if anyone might've commented on it too. It was with joy that I saw Apollonian had added the date to his comment and even greater joy when I saw Les's later comment. I'm glad to know that he is Ok. I enjoy reading Les's writing and listening to his songs and music, for me he is a couragous soul more worthy than any other I know of.

Nick

apollonian said...

"All a person has to do to be selfless is to do something for another that is not self-serving."

-Nobody (ChurchOfNobody.blogspot.com, "Selflessness," 8 Jun 08)

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Selfishness Is Axiomatic, Simple Issue Of Reason, Logic, Reality--Not To Mention Then, Ethics
(Apollonian, 8 Jun 08)

"Nobody," the drunken Pharisee, having been reduced to absurd, now attempts, as by means of above quote fm his latest exciting blog, "clearing things up" on pretended, false, absurd, impossible, and utterly dis-honest supposed "virtue" of "selflessness." For "nobody" hates truth and honesty, and that hatred of truth and honesty is thematic to Les Visible's blog here.

And to be most clear: note this issue of self vs. "selflessness" (which is literally absurd) isn't mere ethical issue--it has to do w. logic, reason, and rationality itself, never doubt. For there's not even any human choice regarding such selfish condition of sin; such selfishness is actually axiomatic, and to deny such selfishness is to deny ALL REALITY, indubitably.

For "nobody" insists I'm "mad," but it's really selflessness which is madness. But I don't say such madness is "evil" (for there is no "evil" in a determined universe)--"nobody" simply prefers to be "mad," pretending he's "virtuous," the Pharisee. "Nobody" must also be, surely, quite a drunk too, to help fortify himself for his insane "virtue" of "selflessness," surely.

Truth then, as for Christian, is we're necessarily sinners and selfish. Hence then, in reason, conclusion must be to a rational selfishness (egoism)--as of Adam Smith, Tom Hobbes, and John Locke, people "nobody," our drunken Pharisee has never heard of, evidently.

But aside fm obvious problem that it's false, phony, and dishonest to pretend one is, can be, or should be "selfless" (as one must always exist, hence exist as a "self") the obvious refutation and problem is that of motivation, specifically the question, "why?" It's actually then mere simple, basic question of Ethics 101, and indeed recalls the problems w. Immanuel Kant's ethical farces regarding "duty" (ck Ayn Rand's "The Virtue of Selfishness").

For if an action is not "self-serving" at least in some way, the obvious question then is why in the first place one performs such action.

For as there's always the question as to why one does something, there's always necessary reason that it must serve one's interest, however one may construe one's interest, in some way, no matter how indirect. For otherwise there'd be no reason whatever to perform the action in the first place, again.

I could go on, like regarding the platitude about being "one w. the universe"--which we are in any event regardless whether we're self-less or not, but I think the simple logical problem for "nobody" the Pharisee and his dishonesty regarding "selflessness" is well enough demonstrated.

Difference btwn me and "nobody" is I'm honest sinner, and "nobody" is either a total pea-brain, like his buddy, "kikz05," or he's typical Pharisaic liar as I've always noted (though surely he lies to himself most of all). For whatever one does, there's necessarily got to be a reason for it, answering question, why?--and no matter what reason it might be, there's necessary self-interest. Q.E.D.

CONCLUSION: Selfishness then is axiomatic not only for us in the rationalist West, but for the entire objective (thus "God-given" for Christian terminology) reality. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

apollonian said...

"Anonymous said...
"nobody re the last paragraph
Argument is superfluous*; discussion is not.
This apoplexy wants no discussion all it wants is argument.
I reiterate
Purely by acknowledging this apoplexy gives it power. It has none; it is waste, effluent, feces.
Let it pass
Tony
*Many thanks to the Daleks (over the years)" June 8, 2008 9:27 PM

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Talmudic Haters Of God, Truth, Smoked-Out, Identified
(Apollonian, 9 Jun 08)

Found above quote, among suchlike others, at ChurchOfNobody.blogspot.com under same "Selflessness" blog for 8 Jun 08. "Nobody" was absolutely ecstatic for the reaction of his cretinous fans and fellow subjectivistics-moralists.

Thus I think above quote by "Tony" gives quite excellent and perfect picture of what world is up against in form of thoroughly malicious subjectivism, a deliberate, hubristic subjectivism which is ordered, streamlined, formed, and co-ordinated against reality and objectivity, hence truth and against all Western culture and Christianity.

"Tony" has nothing to say about "nobody's" actual essay, and further can say nothing specifically against anything stated by Apollonian in rational manner.

Further "Tony" imagines there's something to be gained by ignoring truth and honesty of Apollonian's text and exposition. Tony is truly dedicated subjectivist, (or) nihilist, a genuine hater of reality, truth, honesty, humanity, etc.

So we see and confirm the intense psychopathologic enmity and hatred of subjectivism and Pharisaism-moralism for objectivity, truth, and honesty. I fully intend to return their regard TEN TIMES OVER, at least, don't doubt.

Now then Les Visible, I ask: consider the Talmudically intensive antipathy of these subjectivists, "Tony," "Kikz05," "Silverfish," et al. Is there, could there be, any doubt as to Jew nature of these cretins?

Hence one sees my utility: SMOKING-OUT OF ENEMIES of humanity, truth, honesty, etc.

And it's why, I tell u, JEW-EXPULSION is such attractive solution to problem for us gentiles--it's easy, simple solution with many and detailed historical precedents.

There's no such thing as permanent solutions for world's problems of course, but simple Jew-expulsion/removal would so easily, quickly, and much solve things--and for a good while to come, surely.

And yes, I know--we want to be sure to take care of the gentile suck-alongs and co-conspirators who facilitated these cretins too.

CONCLUSION: And the times of this Jew expulsion would be celebrated as holidays for descendents for generations to come, and we present Christian soldiers would be remembered and hailed as such outstanding heroes of such glorious anti-semitism and revolution--much like original American Founders still are. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Village Idiot said...

Quote from Apollonian: For what is race but mere extended family?--is family an "arbitrary construct" too?

Um, yes.

Parentage; no. Family; yes. Another way to phrase "arbitrary construct" might be "illusion" since families exist only in our heads ('illusion' is also an apt synonym for 'race'). It's like the difference between a house and a home.

Anyhow, be careful with those commas. They can become addictive. It took me, literally, years to, as I like to put it, "kick" commas, but once a commaholic, always a commaholic (next I'm going to try to use fewer parentheses).



Quote from Nobody: I wonder what might be the least I could write that would make the Apoplectic behave as he is named? Might it be a full stop? In a spirit of scientific enquiry (and as an exercise in minimalism) let's try -

Your hypothesis appears to have been validated. Now maybe Tony or somebody else around here can attempt to replicate your results by repeating the experiment, and if successful we can begin to discuss what these findings mean.

Happy Peace,

The Illage Vidiot.

nobody said...

Does more experimentation mean more tirades? To hell with science! I'll suffer for art, but science? Pah!

apollonian said...

"Village Idiot" Merely Fools Himself With His Own Pretension
(Apollonian, 10 Jun 08)

"...Village...," comrade, u need to get a clue on concept of family which has most perfectly clear and perceptually verifiable DEFINITION, as any scientist could and would affirm--just ck dictionary.

Thus for family one has parents with kids--what more do u want? Of course there might be other or further notes or complications, but the necessary root and basis is perfectly present, which u cannot gainsay, squirm and wiggle as u may.

U should be careful urself as u tend to fooling urself for pretended manipulations, overlooking the basic thing.

Another thing u overlook about "nobody" is he's serious about his "nihilistic" selectivity by which he imagines in his hubris and madness he can blot out ("blitz") reality, esp. in form of abstractions/universals, like "race," if he so chooses, pretending as he does to Godliness.

Regarding "selflessness," I thought of an even more clear simile: observe I can no more prattle about being a giraffe, or a musk ox, AS I'M NOT ONE of those, myself.

CONCLUSION: Similarly, it's idiotic to pretending to talk about selflessness--for none of us neither will, nor can, ever know such selflessness, until like ashes to ashes, and dust to dust, we depart forever--and then it will be irrelevant. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Village Idiot said...

All I really wanted was to be featured in an Apollonian article; great success! My pseudonym even made it into the headline, how cool is that? I almost feel famous.

FYI: Dictionaries chronicle the words we use and how we use them. They do not dictate those words and definitions to us. That said, here's what the Merriam-Webster online dictionary sez about "family":

fam·i·ly
Pronunciation:
\ˈfam-lē, ˈfa-mə-\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural fam·i·lies
Etymology:
Middle English familie, from Latin familia household (including servants as well as kin of the householder), from famulus servant
Date:
15th century

1: a group of individuals living under one roof and usually under one head : household
2 a: a group of persons of common ancestry : clan b: a people or group of peoples regarded as deriving from a common stock : race
3 a: a group of people united by certain convictions or a common affiliation : fellowship b: the staff of a high official (as the President)
4: a group of things related by common characteristics: as a: a closely related series of elements or chemical compounds b: a group of soils with similar chemical and physical properties (as texture, pH, and mineral content) that comprise a category ranking above the series and below the subgroup in soil classification c: a group of related languages descended from a single ancestral language
5 a: the basic unit in society traditionally consisting of two parents rearing their children; also : any of various social units differing from but regarded as equivalent to the traditional family [a single-parent family] b: spouse and children [want to spend more time with my family]
6 a: a group of related plants or animals forming a category ranking above a genus and below an order and usually comprising several to many genera bin livestock breeding (1): the descendants or line of a particular individual especially of some outstanding female (2): an identifiable strain within a breed
7: a set of curves or surfaces whose equations differ only in parameters
8: a unit of a crime syndicate (as the Mafia) operating within a geographical area

Personally, I like definition #7 the best.

-Da Village Idiot

apollonian said...

"FYI: Dictionaries chronicle the words we use and how we use them. They do not dictate those words and definitions to us. That said, here's what the Merriam-Webster online dictionary sez about "family":" -"Village Idiot"

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Clarity, Reality Of "Family," Thus Race Perfectly Well-Founded (Once Again)
(Apollonian, 12 Jun 08)

Okay, "...village...," but it isn't clear if u're still trying to "squirm and wiggle." For we very well know dictionaries merely reflect usage, etc.

Rules of definition, however, are matter of philosophy, specifically EPISTEMOLOGY, definitions then requiring clear differentia within genus. And "family" has these qualities, most assuredly, perceptibly verifiable, as I noted. Q.E.D.

Remember the whole pt. is in defending reality of concepts (generalizations) we use--founded upon same reality, thus validity of perceptions.

CONCLUSION: Hence then to sum-up again, "family" is perfectly verified for reality, hence then race as mere extended family is itself perfectly verified, hence no mere "arbitrary" construct or "illusion," or whatever, as insisted upon by desperate, hysterical subjectivistic, "nobody." Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Village Idiot said...

"Rules of definition, however, are matter of philosophy, specifically EPISTEMOLOGY, definitions then requiring clear differentia within genus. And "family" has these qualities, most assuredly, perceptibly verifiable, as I noted. Q.E.D."

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Obfuscation, Denial of Basic Refutation of Earlier Claim
(Idiot, 13 Jun 08)

Squirming and wiggling I am certainly not, unless requested to do so by special female friend but that's another topic.

Dictionary quote a response to lecture directed at me RE: definitions, syntactic hair-splitting idea not mine yet ably refuted via referral to standard dictionary definition of "family."

Relevance of EPISTEMOLOGY unclear; differentia within lexicographic genus adequate for discussion at hand. Use of dictionary to refute initial claim initiated by direct suggestion of Apollonian himself (10 Jun 08 comment). Q.E.D.

Suspicion mounting that accusations of squirming and wiggling mere projections of Apollonian as seen in dismissal of dictionary citation and replacement with appeal to EPISTEMOLOGY.

Reality being subjective, curiosity mounts regarding how term can apply to mere 'concepts.' Furthermore, arbitrary abstractions such as 'concepts' validating perception quite likely a back-assward (forgive me) concept.

CONCLUSION: All logic easily validated while confined within arbitrary abstract constructs; in the real world not so much. Race perfect example of arbitrary construct; defining limits constituting 'this' race vs. 'that' race entirely subjective as enforced by status quo powers that be. Objective differences unbased, family/race lines man-made therefore abstract therefore illusions. All fellow humans then part of 'extended family' making entire concept moot; distinction without difference. Nothing personal and Life to All. The Village Idiot

apollonian said...

"Village..." Reduced
(Apollonian, 13 Jun 08)

"Village...," I do appreciate ur challenges: I feel like we're couple of lawyers/dialecticians arguing before Jefferson's "candid public"--at least for those who care about nature of TRUTH and reality.

And this contest btwn us is then officiated (at least generally) by our good editor, Les Visible, who has been indulgent so far.

Note then I've already cited my necessary premises/precedents: (a) objectivity, according to Aristotle, and (b) Parallelled then in dramatized aesthetic by New Testament (NT) literature and Christ at Gosp. JOHN 8:32.

Hence "TRUTH" requires ref. to objectivity (Aristotle) which is axiomatic, hence a necessary premise/assumption, which itself (objectivity assumption) can have no prior premise before it, necessarily. Such is necessity of and ref. to "epistemology."

Obvious refutation to subjectivity is that if true, ANYTHING GOES, and there is no truth or lies, and everything is both truth and lies at same time.

CONCLUSION: So now dialectic "ball" is knocked back into ur court. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Village Idiot said...

Obvious refutation to subjectivity is that if true, ANYTHING GOES, and there is no truth or lies, and everything is both truth and lies at same time.

That doesn't refute subjectivity at all, it only points to the frustration experienced by those who demand categorization. The reductionist, Cartesian paradigm is obsolete, and doesn't work outside a narrow spectrum of scale.

Reality is what you can get away with, nothing more and nothing less. The beautiful, maddening paradox of the Universe is that everything is in fact true and false simultaneously. That's only paradoxical to our little brains; the Universe itself has no such restrictions. We often forget that Truth and Lies are human concepts.

And I wouldn't be so quick to invoke Aristotle in a discussion of objectivity. He was the genius who famously inferred by logic that women have fewer teeth than men. He never bothered to actually count women's teeth, however, and gathering that (objective?) data would have refuted the claim rather handily.

-The Village Idiot

apollonian said...

"Village..." Misses Pt.
(Apollonian, 14 Jun 08)

"Village...," at this pt. I've already made complete argument which I may lose to majority of Athenian "jury"/assembly--which convicted Socrates, for example. My case is already rested.

Remember we're discussing suitability for that most basic premise/assumption ("axiom")--there's nothing prior to serve as criterion by which u or I is "right or wrong." I just seek to out-do u for persuading cruel jury.

But I note ur sage commentary, arguing like a lawyer for subjectivity, making excuses.

And I observe further ur comments have been hrd and made many times before u. U say nothing new.

What u're not getting is humans must use INDUCTIVE LOGIC in order to ISOLATE CULPRITS OF 9-11, for example. And this Induction requires assumption of objectivity--NECESSARILY--as all/any science, including then socio-biology, history, etc. Subjectivity is for liars.

For what does liar do and say? Liar disdains objectivity (hence truth) and rather insists upon subjectivity, eh?

Thus INDUCTIVE LOGIC ISOLATES Jews (MOSSAD and "neo-cons") as MOST LIKELY SUSPECTS, Nigerians and Indonesians less suspect, given known facts. Thus Jews must provide serious answers for questions about 9-11 and other things like USS Liberty (see UssLiberty.org).

When Jews react w. snarling, resentful invokations and protestations of anti-antisemitism they simply CONFIRM SUSPICION, giving more inductive evidence for fatal conclusion.

That's why we present gentiles are advocating so seriously and evermore loudly (and persuasively) for simplistic JEW-EXPULSION as easy solution to evermore dire problems.

Note Masses of volk NEED simple solutions--as afforded by JEW-EXPULSION.

I well see what u mean about my arg. not "refuting" (for there's no prior premise is there?)--but u're not seeing what I mean--REMEMBER WHAT WE were talking about: TRUTH as discussed in Gosp. JOHN 8:32.

All I ask fellow jury-members and citizens is to note truth cited by Christ REQUIRES OBJECTIVE, Aristotelian universe/reality, necessarily, which Christians understand as "God-given").

INDUCTION would otherwise be useless, and "truth" would have no meaning--a practical meaning as appreciated by our cruel jury, never forget--without that necessary objectivity.

CONCLUSION: So do u think cruel jury should rather favor ur puny and inferior "special pleading" (which is just mysticism and vain declaiming, after all is said and done) for subjectivism, premise of known liars? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Village Idiot said...

So now you equate yourself with Socrates, even after casting accusations of hubris elsewhere? Is the jury cruel merely because it convicted you, and would it be perfectly valid and fair if it had convicted me instead? Wait a minute; what jury? what court? Huh?

You talk of requiring inductive logic to capture the culprits of the 9/11 attacks, but keep in mind that that concepts like "terrorism," "attack," "culprit," "guilt," and "justice" are as man-made as any 'concepts' and hence subjective.

For every person that thinks the attackers need to be brought to justice, there's someone else who thinks the attacks WERE justice being delivered to the "guilty." Hmm. I guess the difference is that they're wrong. Can't beat that logic.

For a mathematically robust indication of the non-existence of any definable objectivity I suggest you read up on modern physics, specifically Quantum Mechanics. Quantum effects are now reproducible in a laboratory setting, irrespective of what logic may dictate and strongly indicating the highly probable truth of the unknowability of Truth.

Although the most acute judges of the witches and even the witches themselves, were convinced of the guilt of witchery, the guilt nevertheless was non-existent. It is thus with all guilt. -Nietzsche



-The Village Idiot

apollonian said...

"Village..." Continues Talking To Himself
(Apollonian, 15 Jun 08)

"Village...," all u do is babble mystic (subjectivistic) nonsense in order to convince urself, evidently, u can get away w. lying and ignoring truth and reality.

I do believe I follow ur arguments in favor of subjectivity--and I reject them, as ur subjective conclusions--they're not practical.

Indeed, u only substantially second "nobody" (ChurchOfNobody.blogspot.com) for his "Don't Believe Anything...," blog for 13 May. "Nobody" doesn't go as far as u do, as "nobody" works to admit to the perceptible world, merely rejecting concepts and abstractions.

As in Aristophanes' "Clouds," purpose of ur sort of subjectivistic sophistry is to get out of paying debts.

Yes, I know u don't acknowledge truth or objectivity, okay--it doesn't matter. For again, pt. is politics and social contract: we're looking for practical, political truth, and assumption of objectivity fits the bill for Western culture.

"Village...," u merely reduce urself to absurd. And yes, I know, u don't accept my definitions.

CONCLUSION: U presume u know anything about "modern physics," and u presume I should presume u know anything. But I have no confidence in u, "village...," forgive me. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

The Village Idiot said...

You're mistaking "Truth" with observations chosen to fit an agenda. There's a difference. We all have an agenda; it's not a pejorative term by any means, but it's not Truth either.

Why do people care to know who was behind 9/11, for example? It's because of their agenda for using that information, which may be to work to stop the seemingly inexorable slide towards a world war and ultimately a tattered and oppressed civilization brought about by those with a different, hostile agenda. And of course, those with no conscious agenda whatsoever simply don't give a damn one way or the other about any of it.

Stopping this ongoing societal devolution is an agenda I share with many, though I try to remember that the entire spectacle takes place entirely inside our heads. That's where concepts like "meaning" and "relevance" are spawned; i.e. what does any evidence of something we may find mean? Well, that depends on our agenda.

Quote: Yes, I know u don't acknowledge truth or objectivity, okay--it doesn't matter. For again, pt. is politics and social contract: we're looking for practical, political truth, and assumption of objectivity fits the bill for Western culture.

See, now that is squirming and wiggling.

Now it appears we're talking about "practical, political truth," which is a literary convenience useful for everyday discourse but unconnected to an objective Truth with a capital "T." You even refer to an "assumption" of objectivity, and assert that this assumption "fits the bill" which is the same as saying pretending objectivity exists is sufficient for acting as though it really does. That stance is taken precisely because objectivity is... wait for it... unknowable! It's comparing apples and onions; Universal Truth vs. human truth. Switching back and forth makes a discussion difficult, albeit more entertaining.

I see this kind of thing often. Out of a larger text, someone picks one piece that appears ambivalent enough to get a foothold into for a wiggly, specious argument. The chosen argument takes up enough space and is sufficiently convoluted so that it's easy to overlook how the majority of the points in the larger text were ignored, presumably due to an inability to refute them. Otherwise, they'd have been addressed unless it's simply a matter of being unable to decipher the writing style sufficiently to know what to refute.

Anyhow, at some point, probably in a few billion years, the Sun will swallow up the Earth, turning it into plasma. After that happens, what would then constitute Truth? That could only be answered by some kind of perceiver, which in this context would be lacking. There wouldn't even be anyone there to make any assumptions.

This blog is about politics, the search for the truth with a small "t." I can agree that truth exists, but just not objectively, or as something independent of our mental models of the world. When this thread ventured into Truth with a capital "T" territory, I just went with it. My thoughts in these recent posts are apparently more appropriate as Visible Origami comment material.

Politics is a gnat's headache, and we're the gnats.



During the few hours I get to buzz around in this life, I'm more concerned with the Big Picture stuff since soon enough I'm going to leave to confront the Great Mystery directly, and I want to make sure I pack right for the trip.

Seems to me that anything else we preoccupy ourselves with is just a way to pass the time; it's often compelling, and always illusory.

Make it fun,

The Village Idiot