Thursday, September 25, 2008

It Doesn't Look Good For the Boys in the Back Room.

I’m amused by what my mind can come up with some times. For instance Goldman-Sachs; Is it a veddy British marriage title or is it some gold man’s sacks? ...or sacs? Some sacks of some man’s gold?. When the ugly truth reveals itself it usually slices itself away like milk fed veal to present the chickenshit-white, First Matter of the Alchemist burbling at the center. That’s a heck of way to start off a commentary but what should I say? Come and get it? Or... don’t you get it?

This whole pustulating mess that has been presented as a ‘free will’ experiment. Hey, call it free enterprise if you like. It’s still tomayto or tomahto. We assume we have latitude to act with autonomy... but we don’t know where we got that autonomy from. Confused? Join the circus... audience or participant... your choice. Put on your clown face. Go bait the bears. Why not ride the bulls and turn the circus into a rodeo? Why not hide in the Sunderband from the tigers? It’s all connected and I bet a lot of people wish they were more ‘connected’ but sorry folks... there’s only so much room and only so many chairs. Do I hear music? Uh huh.

There’s a lot of bad entertainment out there but it really is painful watching bad dancers in the spotlight. I guess we can get into it now. I guess we can call it what it is. Is it steaming in the middle of the road after a horse carriage has gone by? Does it smell bad? If you have ever stepped in it you know what I am talking about and I guess I don’t have to tell you what it is cause, you know... uh huh... you know.

George Bush is entirely composed of it, as are his fellows and all the dancers and jugglers and clowns and acrobats. Hey, some of it has covered all the pricey seats in the audience like they were at a Gallagher show. Don’t forget to wear your raincoats.

This is what it got you, people. This is what it got you. Go ahead... take a bow. Do an encore and ask for more. The crowd loves it.

I’ve watched this whole thing unfold and I still can’t get my head around how such a bad performance drew such crowds. Go ahead... work for a lifetime. Believe a lie and then when the liars come on stage, fight your way through the crowd to be the first to throw all of your money at their feet. Offer them your life and your children’s too. They expect no less of you.

There’s panic in the air. DVD’s of wild-eyed Muslim fanatics are appearing in your newspapers as a gift. The bombs are starting to go off; in Yemen, in Pakistan and next stop? Coming to a major population center soon. Funny how all of the high ranking Pakistanis chose not to show up at the last minute for that Marriot buffet... all you can kill for only $9.99. That’s right. You think back to 9/11 and the Pakistani intelligence involvement and you tell me... do you think there is more going on than what meets the eye? Or do you... think? Do you reason? Do you wonder? I do... but that’s me.

Oh this looks like one of those Texas Chili Festivals. I’ve never been and I truly love chili. I make all kinds of good chili and I would really like to see what some of the other chefs have come up with. But I have never been.

Is it chili or is it shit? You tell me. What does it taste like? Do you know the difference? Can you tell the difference between shit and chili? We’ll leave that to the connoisseur.

I think it is about time for the gloves to come off but that’s not for me to say. Maybe it’s not just gloves but clothes or concealment in general. Time to flush a covey of quails?

I guess all I have to say on this matter is that you shouldn’t deceive yourself about who is responsible for the action going on. Bushco and the assorted assortments of the same neo-con ganglion nexus are the shit in the chili. There are other bad guys out there, sure... but as for all this... this... whatever you want to call it... it’s all being done by the same people pretending to be other people. They got a lot of weapons and that makes them dangerous. However... they are about to destroy themselves because that is what they do. It’s too bad they took a lot of you with them.

I know it may seem hard to believe for a lot of you but they are on the run. They may not know that yet but they are.. What you need to do is not get into their action. Whoever you are... wherever you are... just step away. You don’t have to go down with them. You have that choice. What’s in play is in play. You don’t have to play though. Maybe you hear this and maybe you don’t.

I think some people think I’m all about doom and gloom. I am anything but. Just remove your minds and your hearts and your attention from the frantic activity of these vile predators. Their time has come. You don’t have to sail away with them.

What am I saying? Why can’t I be more clear? Some people won’t let you read what I say unless I say it circumspectly. This whole stinking mess of mindless greed and avarice is about to boil over.

If you think the people that created the crisis can fix the crisis you are a fool. They engineered the crisis in order to gain even more control over everything while paying the least amount for it. And they are doing all of this with your money. It’s not just bad business and unmitigated greed. It’s also intentional. But on their way to all those bright dreams and personal glory... on their way to snatching everything for themselves and destroying you in the process they overlooked something and that is that a person’s reach should never exceed their grasp. They just haven’t grasped that.

These sad clowns have brought the whole circus down. They thought that meant they could sell the items back to the people that paid for them in the first place but... but... but.. or can they? Well... that’s up to you isn’t it? Or maybe there’s a joker in the deck and I do suspect there is a joker in the deck and it is going to get wild. Dick Cheney and David Rockefeller, the Rothschild boys and assorted sundry. The Donable Rumsfield’s and Kissinger’s and all the other party boys and girls are going to get a serious spanking. Do you really want to line up next to them? What did they ever do for you? That’s the part that perplexes me. I guess you think they did something for you but if they did it was an accident ...or you are part of the crew?

The game is up. This time the joke is going to be on them and the punch line is not funny. No, hold your calls... operators are not listening. Operators never listen. They just operate. The Calvary actually is coming but it’s not the Calvary that many would expect. What was that famous scene in that spaghetti western? The troops arrive and are covered in dust so that they look like Confederates but the officer starts slapping his hat against his coat and the coat is blue? Oh yeah, welcome to real time TV.

Oh... by the way... you might want to see THIS

I’ll see you in the next installment and leave you with this advice, “Step away from the fan. Don’t run with the scissors in your hand. Keep your head down and don’t volunteer. Cop a squat in the cheap seats... far enough away so that you don’t have to wear a raincoat. And if you want to get close to the action? I suggest you bring your raincoat.

Visible sings: Songwriter by Les Visible♫ Iridescent Dreams ♫
'Iridescent Dreams' is track no. 10 of 10 on Visible's 2006 album 'Songwriter'
Lyrics (pops up)

Songwriter by Les Visible


Anonymous said...

Once again a great job...

To quote you Les "If you think the people that created the crisis can fix the crisis you are a fool. They engineered the crisis in order to gain even more control over everything while paying the least amount for it"

Profound words my friend...These are definitely dark days, oh so dark in deed. I watch the activities of the dark cabal, the dark side and I am left with a feeling of rage, at times frustration, at times sympathy, and still at other times apathy.Still more times than not I view this with humor and let me explain....

I have this love hate relationship with the human race. Have had for some time now, I see the potential the species carries albeit locked deep within the pyschological make up. I see what gains have been made in even the last hundred years and it at times leaves me in awe of what humans can do and can be when motivated. Yet I hate the species when I see what they are not doing as well. How we as humans are crapping at the dinner table so to speak regarding this planet we call home. We choose not to seek out energy supplies that do not endanger the planet, that can work in harmony with the planet and her eco-systems. No we choose methods that cause the mother pain, using oil, using gas reserves, coal, uranium etc etc. We want the easy way and even with these destructive energy supplies we choose not to use them wisely, we drive vehicles that get 20 mpg when we could buy and use vehicles that can reach 50.

Still I laugh at the human species because we are going to be our own destruction. The recent events taking place around the globe to once again stir the fear toward Muslum extremists, Al Queida, are the precursor for the dark forces to set up another staged event on US Soil another sinister event.

You can see it start to play out like watching a really bad B grade western movie and yet people will fall into that trap. There are still, and I find this amusing, people who cannot see that 9/11 was a coordinated effort by outside evil forces and the present administration to herd the sheeple in a direction of conformity. What better way to control people other than through a constant state of fear.

We are seeing it now through the financial situation the other Weapons of Mass Destruction. You have handsome Hank and Beautiful Ben telling the masses if they do not approve the bailout the net effect will be that the economy will surely collapse and you will go hungry, you will be jobless, there will be chaos,THERE WILL BE BLOOD! ....and there will be martial law.

Guess what? Some of that may be true, perhaps all of what they say may be true. From what I have seen though the full effect of this hurricane on wall street is not fully understood. The derivatives market alone is not understood by anyone on Wall Street let alone the world as to how deep that hole goes, yet we are led to believe that the $700 billion for the bailout will stave off a collapse. So in effect there will be a a collapse nothing they will do will stop it now. What they propose is to gain enough money from the stupid taxpayer, the sheeple to payout the execs, the CEO's, the politicians, lobbyists etc, all to exit stage left and then let it fall.

I guess those that believe that the 9/11 attack was done by a man in a cave in a mid eastern mountain will believe this crap, I won't.

What I fear is another staged attack, something has to kick start the martial law situation for the present dark forces. If an economic meltdown and the possibility of rioting does not come to pass then an event will have to be staged.

This is where I hate the species, because with all the information regarding what this dark force is about, what they have shown they are capable of, should such an event happen, the sheep will fall into line and be led away to slaughter. Oh please mister Gov't please save us, save us from those bad men and we will give you whatever you need to do it...please.. please....PLEASE!!!!

We still have, but diminishing indeed, free will. We still have the ability to think, we still have the ability to determine right from wrong, and yet as a collective nothing changes.

Sorry Les for getting so long on this comment, just a bit pissed this morning at the stupidity of the fellow species.

Do Believe that the congress will pass the bailout, they have to they have too much invested not to. Big Deal... So you, your children and your children's children not born of the privileged class will pay and pay dearly, their primary concern is getting theirs first and to hell with the rest.



Anonymous said...

Thanks Shaman that was superb! The countries that finance this whole third rate flea market are growing tired of this and it won't last forever. It almost seems like part of their plan no need for violence or firing a shot they will let the greedheads do themselves in. I only hope that the least amount of "little people" as possible are harmed in this.

notamobster said...

It's getting better and better. I just hope the righteous indignation continues to spread...though I'm not holding my breath.

If things do swing wildly in favor of those who have always sought truth, and justice - folks would be well advised to remain mindful of the M.O. of the swine: "create the revolution or just usurp control at that peak of the revolt". These are wildly dangerous months in front of us, in America.

All my best, les. (Very well-written, by the way)

Anonymous said...

Hey Les,

Wonderful article (per the norm), your skills here are becoming sharper with each day. Don't let up... at all...

Look-ee here:

And then here:

You're not alone, Sir. I'm personally pretty ashamed of being part of the 'human race' meselfs. Basically, a virus wearing shoes...

Pissed today, folks. And not sure how much more I can personally stomach...

My warmest wishes Les...


The Doktor

Anonymous said...

Once these elite all have there tits in the wringer there is going to be a serious void in need of QUALITY replacements.

I am going to do my record collective. You can and will do your own things so long put off.

Once the Usury flame has burned out the land of ruin is going to need work.

This work is GOING to be done with the careful hand of the ones that were gifted with the need to overcome and learn.. Gifted with the hope of the way home to a better place to live.

starving these boys at the mega-trough is just a matter of time and the time is coming quickly. Acts to hide the deed is afoot.. Big powers are involved. TRILLIONS of THERE real monetary units are at stake... And America is playing fast and loose with the facts.

Fix is coming for these very serious problems facing YOU the US residents and other ultimate parties responsible.

Payback is going to be harsh.

Suck it up.

America is in big BIG trouble with this Marriott operation and the facts are going to make the Watergate thing look like a marital spat once the real players are unearthed and the whole operation is laid out by the COURTS.

Click my tag and have a read of the page.

Anonymous said...

The Revolution Will Not Be Organized

[link to]

The Revolution Will Not Be Organized

The revolution will not be organized,
the revolution will not be,
the revolution will not be Yahoo Grouped, Meetuped,
downloaded, uploaded, QWERTY'd, or blogged.

The revolution will not be handled by webmasters,
think-tankers, authors of policy position papers,
authors of anti-policy position papers,
secretaries, executives, executive assistants,
insiders, whistle-blowers, informants, counter-informants,
committees or sub-committees.

Your neighbor with excellent leadership qualities
will not lead you into, through, or out of the revolution.
The revolution will not be inspired, instigated, managed
or controlled by him, her, or them.
The revolution will not be organized.

No matter if you eat at McDonald's and can barely walk,
no matter if you drive an S.U.V. and rarely walk,
no matter if you were public school indoctrinated,
vaccinated, humiliated, ostracized, terrorized, minimized,
no matter if you live in a house owned by BofA,
no matter if you eat cat food, dog food,
Puppy Chow for your inner child,
no matter if you shop at Salvation Army, Saks, TJ Maxx,
when the Cold Hand of Power touches you,
it touches revolution.

They will come to chip you, rape you,
tell you you are theirs, imprison you in FEMA camps
because you spoke out,
because you doubted the official story,
because you looked with your own eyes,
spoke from your own heart.
They will come for you in black uniforms, black helmets,
swinging black batons, symbols of the New Authority,
and you will say,
"No, my children and I will not come with you."

You will say no -- not because Charlie Sheen
inspired you one night on FOX News
to look more closely at falling towers.
You will say no -- not because Alex Jones
led you through the darkness with a bullhorn.
You will say no -- not because Howard Zinn
handed you the Book of Truth on a silver platter.
You will say no because you are your own
star of truth shining the way.

At your unique hour, in the dark,
beneath a burning paper currency moon,
the Cold Hand of Power will touch you and revolt you.

At your unique hour,
when they come for you because you asked questions,
because you did not lower your eyes,
because you did not bow down,
at your unique hour,
in your unique circumstance,
you will find yourself in the grip of a courage
you have not known but which you are.
You will stand in front of black helmets with invisible faces,
and you will say,
"No, my children and I will not come with you."

Daughters and sons of revolutionaries,
blood burning for freedom,
eyes set toward tomorrow,
each of you alone in the darkness,
beneath tender constellations burning gold and silver,
each of you will remember the path to take
when the Cold Hand of Power comes for you,
each of you will make your way without direction or encouragement,
as those before you made their way without direction or encouragement,
forging history, embracing destiny.

You will not march in file.
You will not march.
Maybe you have seen this, maybe not:

The revolution will not be organized.

In your darkest hour,
beneath the burning moon,
you will pledge allegiance to the truth,
as those before you pledged allegiance to the truth.

The truth cannot be organized.

Anonymous said...

Last week, I dipped into my "Goddess Guidance" cards and asked about the econ sitch unfolding and the card for the goddess Oonagh came up with the tag "Easy Does It." All things are unfolding as they need to.

Today, I felt it was time to ask again, and :tee-hee!: the card that came up was Kali. Endings and beginnings.

Your post Les and the Ely's post remind me of R.W. Fassinder's observation: "People are so pathetic--in the end they tolerate everything." And also Derrick Jensen's trenchant view that people will allow themselves to be led to their deaths in a gas chamber so long as they're convinced they're just walking into a bathroom.

I am as much implicated in this mishagoss as anyone. I'm no better. Here I sit in a cubicle and muse about all of this and wonder when it's all going to go pffffft! And I know it's coming. We all sense it. As an entry title over at put it "There's Something in the Fog."

I think we hit it quite a while ago, but we collectively have not awakened yet to be able to "man the lifeboats" as it were. Am I part of the crew that's standing here trying to help people out of the burning building? Or am I going to suffocate like most everyone else I know?

Still, I also like the notion that "Man plans and God/dess laughs." The idea that people can manage how they are perceived by others, that people think they can make people perpetually afraid tickles me. At some point, a person, a body just has to surrender to the inevitable. Adrenalinemia can only last so long before it poisons the entire system. And when that happens, people either die, go insane or...

become poets and laugh at this strange artificial world.

I hope I have something to offer. I think I do, but I'm not sure if there are any takers in my bioregion. Suppose time will tell. But I'm kind of enjoying this bizarre spectacle, and I'm curious and expectant about whatever is emerging.

One thing that's helping me is something I remember hearing in 12-step rooms: I get to do this! I get to be here! And by the way, isn't it great?

Frostwolf, Troy, New York

Anonymous said...

Nice to read your take on this, you have a way with the words on all our lips, those who see the whole picture, would be excused to take Horse tranquilizer to sleep at night

Justin_n_IL said...

Be sure to check out "they want mama to make it all better" as well. Nice post my friend.

Jody Paulson said...

Peace Mom Cindy Sheehan is calling for a Tax Revolt.

Anonymous said...

Ah yes the snake of greed has been for sometime swallowing its own tail and now as it approaches its own head in denial it yet tries to eat more of itself it will soon see that death or regurgitation are its only options. A pitiful and discusting sight it will be with no skin left to hide its hideous insides.

Parfer DeCourse said...

Enter the Amero…

I’ve been wondering how they were going to get us to buy the idea that America, Canada and Mexico needs the Amero. Hmmmm…how about ushering in the “Mother of all Economic Collapses”??? It doesn’t really matter whether they go forward with the $700 billion bailout or not. Either way, the results will be the same. The economy collapses along with the dollar.

Someone along the way (probably reading from a well scripted teleprompter) will come up with the brilliant idea (already in place) to merge the three countries for mutual benefit whilst creating an entirely shiny new economy (that will look suspiciously like the old one) only this time the money will look a little different and our freedoms will be gone.

Problem is, they will drag us through hell and back before this last insult, therefore, kicking in phase III or IV or V of their New World Order bullshit! There’s got to be a way to break this chain of events and have the tide roll our way for a change.

I read, with great interest, your Central Command experience, Les. All I can say is, I sure hope so, buddy, I sure hope so!!!

Thanks for another great read!


Anonymous said...

Holy Update Batman! has an article saying China has cut off lending. The world is tiring of the greedheads. Them foreigners are sophisticated enough to know not all of us are greedmongers I hope hehe. Don't forget to give credit to the writer of The Revolution Will Not Be Organized, Jock Doubleday that is some potent word magic.

Anonymous said...

That revelation of yours Mr Visible could well be happening already, check this out ->

Quote :
"This was a convergence of everyone having the same thought at the same time," says Matt Holland, TrueMajority's online director.

Oh yeah bring it on folks then every single person in the world will know what are the wages of greed truly are. Perhaps some will even realise that a capitalistic competative greed for self kind of system is always going to end in disaster, history is full of examples.

Anonymous said...

Hi Les. I would like to address this to Frostwolf T'Firerose "Goddess Guidance" cards, what the hell is that when your not at home? get a life. It seems God is whatever you want Him to be, rather than what He is. This is what I was talking about in my comment in central command. come on people. God cannot be what you want Him to be. He is God. He does not spring up in the middle of Goddess Guidance cards. Do you really think you can just pluck God from a hand of cards. God is God. He is not in the mood for card games. God is not there to be channeled in whatever Hocus-pocus way you feel like. Fuck me! sorry about that. I just get so pissed off when I here things like that. As far as I am aware, God picks who He talks to, not the other way round. He cannot be summoned to council by some goddess cards. Have some respect for the entity you are dealing with. Sorry Les. I just get pissed off a little, when God is used as some sort of fanciful play thing.

Anonymous said...

thanks for the link to the ohio dem.

I'd forgotten americans like that existed. good luck to her.


Anonymous said...

Guess it becomes obvious in hindsight, you cant awaken the sheep by pulling their heart strings of their brain strings, the only string that works is the purse string. Sad sad creatures what worship the wallet.

Anonymous said...

Shhhhhh, brian. Listen.

Franz said...

Good on ye again, Les.

Looking forward to each installment on the edge of me seat these days, and me an old over-the-hill steelworker! How much heavier this must strike your younger readers!

AND GOOD ON YE TOO, Frostwolf T'Firerose!

Direct experience to the Divine by Divining. My favorite!

I also stymie the NWO shills the old fashioned way: The Blackwater fiends come for me, they won't decipher squat if they can't read Dynastic Egyptian. I rolled my own, in the Old Language, and keep it right out in the open.

I know "god" is what Hermes called The All. We are all within the All. The All is within all of us. We parse the Universe because we are a tiny Universe ourselves, a mirror for the Big One.

Les, it's so right, this optimism. The likes of Bush and Chertof spit in the eye of God. The All that's literally ALL OF US. They cannot succeed. They only become more cut off from the All (and us all, and God.)

Looking into the fearful foolishness of the Chimp yesterday, I no longer think The Regime is so bulletproof. The not-quite-human-beings are about to get into a tangle with those whose godness they've denied.

The final battle, no, just a skirmish the Bad Guys will lose to let us know that the All stays in balance with their inadvertent help whenever they knock it out of kilter!

Robert said...

September 25, 2008
Ahmadinejad's Speech to UN, 9-23-08
Madame President, Excellencies, What afflicts humanity today is certainly not compatible with human dignity; the Almighty has not created human beings so that they could transgress against others and oppress them. By causing war and conflict, some are fast expanding their domination, accumulating greater wealth and usurping all the resources, while others endure the resulting poverty, suffering and misery. Some seek to rule the world relying on weapons and threats, while others live in perpetual insecurity and danger. Some occupy the homeland of others, thousands of kilometers away from their borders, interfere in their affairs and control their oil and other resources and strategic routes, while others are bombarded daily in their own homes; their children murdered in the streets and alleys of their own country and their homes reduced to rubble. Such behavior is not worthy of human beings and runs counter to the Truth, to justice and to human dignity. The fundamental question is that under such conditions,where should the oppressed seek justice? Who, or what organization defends the rights of the oppressed, and suppresses acts of aggression and oppression? Where is the seat of global justice? A brief glance at a few examples of the most pressing global issues can further illustrate the problem.

Complete speech can be found at the lnk

isenhart7 said...

"There's a wild-eyed boy in the radio shack
He's the last remaining guest
He was tappin' in a Morse code frenzy
Tappin' "Please God, S.O.S."

Anonymous said...

Hi Les,
Wanted to run an idea by you-- I was thinking of something empowering and positive--not like the War on Poverty or The War on Drugs (lol)or The War on Politicians/Bankers. It could be done worldwide with the right connections--of which I have none--but by the sites that pick you up--it looks like you may have the connections. Here goes: Starting on Friday at noon until Saturday at noon--every hour on the hour-- those who are able to legally shoot guns off should do so...those who are able to honk their horns, blow off air horns or fireworks...whatever, should do so...especially in front of government buildings including Congressional and Senate office buildings in their districts. Let them know that we are here. Keep it going, week after week...WRH..Rense...blogs...whoever picks up on it. The media will eventually have to cover it. All with very little chance of getting busted over the head..and not being able to do anything about it. The shots heard round the world...or at least wherever here is....People are just looking for a way to do something...the energy created...if kept positive will be powerful.

Unknown said...

The Calvary is coming? Did you mean cavalry?

Anonymous said...

The fact of the matter is:

...Paulson’s draft bailout plans says: “The Secretary’s authority to purchase mortgage-related assets under this Act shall be limited to $700,000,000,000 outstanding at any one time.”...

Will be intersting what the American public will do with this one!!!

petkov said...

The bailout MUST occur.

As usual, you American idiots are missing the point of the bailout entirely(not surprising of course). You are all screaming against it all over the net. In fact the bailout has to happen, no, it MUST happen. Remember, in the last 20~ years USA has stopped being to world's lender and it has become the world's leading and largest debtor nation. It is at the mercy of other countries some of which are not its friends except economic partners. Yes I'm obviously talking about China of course. Yes, Japan does happen to hold the largest amount of US Treasury bonds but right after them is China. USA literally has to borrow 2.6 billion dollars daily to survive. True fact. If the bailout doesn't happen and the US banking system collapses(as it just might) then China, Japan and all those other countries will stop buying US Treasury bills and thus lending US money. Do you idiots understand what that REALLY means? The 1930's Depression will be a walk in the park in comparison.
No, I am not saying the US system of creditism is correct or good to the average American sheeple but that's all US got right now. If that system collapsed, a total chaos might insure dragging the world's economy down with it. NOBODY not even YOU idiots would like that.
Come on, do I dare you to publish my comments again?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous One, good post Les,I went to a lecture in Montreal last Friday,Peter Dale Scott was excelent he discribed the effect 911 had on Canada.On my return to the shit hole call Merica they asked me at the border where I had been while I was in Montreal,I told them I had attended a lecture at Magill about 911,thats where my troubles begain.At that point I was instructed to pull my truck up and come in side so they could run me through their special computor,they kept for about an hour and searched my truck.The questions they asked me were probing asto where I found out about this lecture,and why I was interested in such things,then the jerk that was searching my truck comes in with a paper from my travel bag in his hand.Well I know just what he has in hand,it was a paper I downloaded from the white house web site,Presidential Directive about contanuity of government the one that gives Bush the power to enact emergency powers in the event of a catastrophy.He says "what's this" I say it's a PD,he says"I know that,what are you doing with it?".At that point I tell him I like to know what my government is doing to me,then he has this strange look on his face like he doesn't know what to say.Well after he and the girl have a little side bar off in the back of the room,they tell me I can go,he hands me the paper,and says sorry for the delay and that I'm free to go.As I put my truck back in order,I have this feeling that this will not be the last I hear of this.I have made up my mind to leave this shit hole place to the new nazis,I am getting out before it's too late,good luck america.

Visible said...

Well... I'm only connected to one thing and that's connected to everything else.

Two points; Yes I was aware of the use of the word Calvary out of context. I did it on purpose but I meant for it to be taken either way.

Petkov; you only don't get published when you posts are full of sneering ad hominems that are the product of your wholly unjustified superiority complex by way of a bilious and perpetually cranky attitude. Although this one is emblematic of your usual caustic style it's fine to put it there and you're quite wrong about none of us wanting to see the system crash... I do in fact want it to. It sucks as it is and only operates to make the rich richer and the poor poorer and something is needed to wake people up.

notamobster said...

Sorry, to have to do this again, les.

Brian: You've got a lot of nerve to question someone else's faith. Your blog is "The-irish-catholic". Anyone who chooses to believe that swill has no right telling ANYONE else, what is sensible!!! The catholic faith is based almost entirely on the dogma created by the pedophiles, deviants, and power-mongers who run or have run, the church.

And for Petkov - You're a sod! I would rather see this entire country in financial ruin for a few years, than live out the rest of my days in a system based entirely on financial bondage. The only way the masses will ever wake up - is to be squeezed, and made uncomfortable. When they can't live like they used to, they will mobilize and act. People get lazy and complacent when their belly is full.

If the global economy goes to shit (all the better), maybe the people of the world will wake up and realize that all of this globalization may not be the best course, after all. Sovereign nations are a good thing. Control of the world, in the hands of a merciless few, is bad. Sovereign nations, much like the founders' vision of the United States (the actual states, not the whole) - allows countries to compete vigorously for residents and revenue streams. This idea, in it's purest form stimulates ingenuity, competition, and benefits all involved. If you don't like where you live, or what they offer. You can move to a place that offers something better (as countless did by coming here over the years - the country's just not what it used to be).

kikz said...

'If that system collapsed, a total chaos might insure dragging the world's economy down with it. NOBODY not even YOU idiots would like that.'

if this is what has to happen to loose the world from the slavery of the federal reserve (international bankers)

so fukin be it.

Anonymous said...

A quiet but long response to Brian (with my apologies--I can get long-winded), but first, a thank you to Frank and notamobster for your good words on my behalf. At first I was just going to let it pass, turn the other cheek etc. But I thought about it and I kind of need to call ol' Brian on an error of the judgmental variety. And if you catch me in a personal slur, please let me know. It's not intentional. I'm not here to go off on you back, but to respond though you may still not like much what I have to say. To be safe does not necessarily mean to be comfortable after all.

Short summary: "Thank you for sharing, keep coming back." That's what we fellow belief-addicts would say to those who really seek to be released from their bondage to a limiting self. If there were a "TBA" (for Toxic Belief Anonymous as opposed to "To Be Announced"--t.hee!), that would be something said "in the rooms" to anyone struggling with the restrictions of judgmentalism and the arduous push-pull of insecure superiority. That might sound like an oxymoron, but it's really more like a pendulum swinging between the two extremes, anbd the fulcrum is the balance point between egotism and resentful duty. The fulcrum would be what I label connection to the Higher Self. But that's just me. So, Al-Anon is a good alternative as there is as yet no "Civilization Anonymous" or TBA either.

And now the long response. And I offer the suggestion to take it in small chunks. There's a lot here.

Please understand one thing: I will NOT tell you are wrong to feel whatever emotion you are feeling. You were set off. OK. It's valid. I do see that you would rather off-load it onto another person though which I decided I needed to respond to. "Does this need a response? Does this need a response now? Does it need to be me that responds?" Yes, yes, and yes. But I could be wrong.

Truth be told, I would have let this pass, but I read notamobster's response which was when I decided to read your chastisement of me rather than pass over it. I have some Al-Anon, enough to know that I need to go to where it's warm. (And Brian, you offer the Artic Circle.) So I read your post anyway, and discovered it wasn't what I thought it was.

Let me also say thank you to you as well. I'm grateful that you have unwittingly given me the opportunity to put into words a couple of issues that I have wanted to address of late.

Personally I feel that elitism of the sort you advocate is a disease. (And perhaps you would say to me "I'm sorry you feel that way." You would be in your rights... and it would be respectful as well. Planting another infuriating seed...)

For years I have been struggling with the notion of "that which you fear, go towards it." Now, you might not think you're afraid of anything per se, Brian, but when there's a reaction like yours, fear is an element of that, and it is an aspect that prefers to remain hidden.

People in my tradition honor that each one of us is our own sacred authority. If you choose to use your sacred authority to defer to "ick-spurts" as I prefer to call them, be my guest. That might strike you as judgmental, and ego does lurk everywhere. But Grace lurks side by side with it--a friend of mine told me that one of his own counselors had had a spirtual mentor many moons ago who was a thief. Coyote and Jesus live in the same being, my friend.

Each day you rise, you make that decision to cede your will to whatever avatar has your attention. And again with each avowal of this notion and with each attempted attack against someone who doesn't share that belief. And I would surmise, with each high that gives you. I too have the disease of Needing-to-be-right-osis.

I am reminded of the example of Andrew Harvey who was devoted to an avatar, until she tried to get him to turn straight. It broke his heart--he wrote a whole book about the dark night of the soul he underwent. I mention this only to point out that you are choosing a vulnerable position to be in. It is your choice.

And thanks in advance for having the courtesy not to make it for me.

The English philosopher Herbert Spencer is quoted in the Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book. I come back to this again and again--

"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

Ya think?

Sure! I get a bit woo-woo for my own good. I have a character defense of wanting to build a castle in the air, and then buy fabrics for it. It's strong in me.

This attraction to immanence also something people appreciate about me though, and it helps me to stay abstinent with sugar and flour--I used to be 300 pounds and I do not want to go back. But I am open to experience. James Joyce said "God is a shout in the street." Now perhaps that strikes the drama queen in you as the ultimate in debasement, but to me it is a celebration of the possibility that Goddess is everywhere.

Why shouldn't God/dess be always talking to us? And just why should we choose to defer to someone else's notions, except to ponder the touchstones of experience they offer? I share my oracles because... well mostly because they're FUN. And I feel the sacred works through them. It's called DIVIN(E)ation for a reason.

And I do look at Jesus and Buddha and Lao-Tse and Dorothy Day and Teresa D'Avila Juan de la Cruz and Rumi and gay Mohawk shamans and Ben Franklin and Albus Dumbledore and my own ancestress Jehanne the wise woman of her Gallic village from 70 years before the Romans invaded and Marcus Aurelius too to be fair, as people/tulpas who offer quite a bit. But so too to Cerridwen and Dian-y-Glas and Shakti and Anubis, etc. We are surrounded by mana/prana/chi. Adamantine particles as some have said. In short, we swim in God.

Do you REALLY see yourself, Brian as so deficient that you yourself can't access God and have to go through an intermediary? Think on this for a moment: The right use of pride is really a working definition of humility in its most simple and golden form. The word "pride" sits on a sword's edge in our culture. When we talk of it as one of the 7 Deadly Sins, we're really talking about Arrogance--the magnification of Pride. We celebrate pride in various forms though--pride in our work, pride in our heritage, pride in our craft or racial or spiritual or affectional heritages. It comes from an Anglo-Saxon root which means "to step forward" and is related also to the word "prow" among others.

The other side of it, the de-emphasizing of pride is nothing but useless shame, a toxicity that needs immediate transformation whenever it is encountered.

Spirit comes in many forms. And perhaps it's showing itself here with your reactive words in its separative aspect, or as Paul Levy refers to it, as its diabolic aspect (in opposition to symbolic, which is to unify and throw things together). Whether you wish to cop to this or not, Pat Buchanan is also an Irish Catholic (and so too do I have that in my mutt-background), and the sort of militantly ignorant truculence he puts forth reveals very little to emulate IMHO. There is in our Celtic heritage a deep, deep wound, and Pat Buchanan and others of his ilk revel in that woundedness. It's downright FUGLY.

Our ancestors were violated when St. Patrick came to drive out the Druids. And for centuries people there tried to keep their folkways sacrosanct. It's still there, as Maeve Binchy's novels attest. And it's in between the lines of the faith. It's there too in Italian Catholicism, where the Strega attend mass every Sunday even as they send blessings of Diana and Aradia to their neighborhoods. There is a lot of commonality between Irish Catholicism and Santeria/Candomble and Voodoo--q.v. if you would like.

All I'm saying here is that while it's OK to want vanilla in the ice-cream shop of ideas, there is a whole variety of flavors to choose from. If the avatar du jour or d'ane or de century works for you, fine. But it's a choice you're constantly making, and fyi, I tried that and couldn't make it work. I'm a gay fellow and I tend to think for myself. I choose when to laugh at jokes and I try to follow things in the spirit of inquiry, though I sometimes fall down there.

Anyway, quite a long $.02 but there you go.

Beauty before you, beauty behind you, beauty to the left of you, beauty to the right of you, beauty above you, beauty below you, beauty all around you. And if you'd like to change "beauty" to "Christ" be my guest.

Frostwolf T'Firerose

Anonymous said...

Excuse me please, but I'm on a rant or a rave or the rag or whatever you want to call it, I can't take anymore from the church of the wooley blind who in all their religiousness cannot decide which is the least of the liars to cast their all important vote for.

That's why those Godly saints [the Founders} who are responsible for their religiousness, devised this government of the people, by the people, for the people, so when the time came to take the government from "we the people" they could find all 300 million of them standing around with their finger [you know where] telling each other "THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT".

I hear it's GODS WILL, there should be no peace on earth, I'm sorry, but I thought HE sent HIS SON to change that into "Peace on earth good will towards men".

They are liars in Washington, the Devil's seated at the throne and wherever you find the Devil, you won't find GOD, because HE doesn't hang around the evil. You won't find GOD and you won't find the GODLY. And you don't have to be religious to understand that, just common sense and logic will do..unless you're infected with the Founders "freedom from worship" religiousness who are convinced somewhere in all that darkness that covers their government, if they look hard enough and vote for the least of the liars they can find JESUS CHRIST hiding there.

some food for thought, everywhere it is mentioned "who they" are that shall inherit the pit that burneth with brimstone.


Believe it or not, I have encountered some of the "religious freedom from worship" who in all their religiousness have found that to be news worthy.

Thank you for listening


notamobster said...

At this point, I'd like to retract my comments to Brian, and defer to my well-able-to-defend-HIMSELF, new friend "Frostwolf". Touche.

Anonymous said...

Hi Les. I would like to respond to Frostwolf T'Firerose, long comment, in response to my comment on Goddess cards. However, I would rather do it by email if Frostwolf is willing to go that direction. so, my email is if Frostwolf would like to contact me i would be more than happy to go there.



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