Sunday, August 3, 2008

9/11... the Ship goes Down while The Band Plays on.

It’s the most amazing thing about the 9/11 attacks. You’ve got hundreds of professionals in the sciences and engineering fields that are on record and supported by irrefutable evidence who say that 9/11 could not have happened the way they say it did. You have hundreds of professional pilots, military pilots and aviation experts who say that those accused of piloting the planes could not possibly have done so. You have former leaders from Japan and Germany as well as intelligence chiefs from Italy and other places who say that 9/11 was an Inside Job and that those who carried it out were members of the CIA, the Israeli Mossad and elements of British intelligence.

The amount of evidence to support the guilt of these agencies is overwhelming. You have a majority of the American people and people worldwide who do not believe the official story. You have eyewitness accounts and hundreds of videos, physical evidence or the damning lack of physical evidence and the evidence of evidence destroyed. You have lies and blatant cover-ups. You have motive and the glaring evidence of following events and the clear evidence of who benefited. You have dual nationals at high levels in all of the key areas of government who are engaged in the cover-up and destruction and suppression of evidence. You have dual nationals in control of major agencies that were created ‘after’ the attacks. You have a dual national who was in charge of the Pentagon’s money while somewhere around three trillion dollars went missing and which was announced the day before 9/11 by Donald Rumsfield and which never got mentioned again because 9/11 happened. You’ve got things like this showing up every day.

We have all of this and more, much more and yet we hear nothing about it in the mass media except when the matter is ridiculed or debunked with the most ham-handed efforts. We have lying gatekeepers like Noam Chomsky saying it doesn’t matter if the government, with the assistance of other governments, did 9/11. His arguments make no sense. Why would it not matter? Anyone who makes such an argument is without a doubt in the employ of those who carried out the attacks. Their arguments make no sense. One could say that it doesn’t matter who made the attacks at Columbine. It doesn’t matter who carried out the Oklahoma bombing. It doesn’t matter why we invaded Iraq. It doesn’t matter if we attack Iran. It doesn’t matter if you obey the law or break the law. It doesn’t matter if you lie or tell the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people died for a lie. It doesn’t matter if the Palestinians are exterminated. Apparently nothing matters except to the people that it happens to and they’re gone and that doesn’t matter either.

There are some people for whom 9/11 doesn’t matter. Some of these people have no interest in what happens to other people. Some of these people are interested only in their own personal advancement. Some of these people do not want their personal advancement hindered by compromising their self interest with the truth. Some people are more stupid than it is possible to imagine. Some are indifferent to anything but their appetites. Some people are too frightened to be caught thinking outside of party lines and what is acceptable in a society inclined to accept what it is told. Some people cannot imagine that those, occasionally actually elected to represent them, would lie even when they know that it is the nature of ‘occasionally’ elected officials to lie.

Day by day the evidence mounts. Day by day more people know. Some few of us knew very soon after the event that something was wrong with the official line. Now there are many, many more who know. I knew that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq ‘before’ the invasion even occurred. I published a daily log every day for a hundred and fifty days saying so. I was excoriated for this... day followed day and no weapons were ever discovered.

When you travel the internet to various forums and chat rooms you find that trivia is the main subject of conversation. It is trivia that occupies the mind of most people. You find that many of these people are professionals in some line of work. They are not all gamers and ordinary nitwits for whom nothing beyond the trivial is possible. Some of these people have expensive educations and yet, their conversations are about the most superficial and banal of subjects. Take a look at the subject matter and quality of conversation at this forum which calls itself The Best of the Fray. The majority of the posters here are college educated. Consider the level of exchange. It is an embarrassment to the human race. This forum is one of many that are connected to the online magazine, Slate.

The pervasiveness of materialism and the pursuit of personal gain have turned a large percentage of the population into something less than human beings. They joke about terrible events. They laugh about the misfortune of others. They think themselves clever and immune. They feed on bread and circuses and are indifferent to the world as it collapses around their ears. Here is a grim reminder of what is happening to their world right now and yet they are disconnected from it. It is happening but it isn’t real. It is quite real.

So many people have no interest about what happened on 9/11. They make no connection between the ongoing election fraud; the emerging police state, the destruction of the economy, the unnecessary wars and massive loss of life, the corruption of the corporations and governments that are bleeding them white. They do not see that the government is engaged in presently planning a new terror attack in order to maintain control. They do not consider that both candidates for the coming administration are whores for the same lies and slave-masters as the administration they seek to replace. They do not consider the real possibility of martial law when so many of the laws that have followed 9/11 have all been designed with this in mind. Is it any wonder that things are as they are? Can anyone say that these people do not deserve whatever happens to them?

The dozens of people who comment at this blog with every new entry are living proof that not everyone is a posturing fool or practicing psychopath. The sterling work of many bloggers is living proof that some people care. The huge body of the public that supports the candidacy of Ron Paul is proof evident that not all of America is reading the gossip columnists or chattering about treacle and trivia online. It is a sad commentary on contemporary life that so many people are such self-involved fools. I always wondered how history could have happened the way that it did. It always seemed to me that people could not be as stupid and deluded as they appeared to be. I was wrong. You can see it now. The internet has introduced us to each other and shown us what we are up to. It’s no surprise to see that pornography is the biggest business going. It’s no surprise to see that pornography is a lot more than sex. It’s the debasement of a great deal more than just our sexual nature.

There are a great many of us who are not going to stop writing about this and studying the matter. No matter what comes in the time to come, some portion of humanity will survive. I think I can predict that most of those will not be the people who ignored and/or made fun of the things that affected their well being and the well being of others.

We are in the midst of tremendous upheaval and change. In a very short time the world as we know it can cease to exist. I make no predictions about what form coming events will take. We are walking on a narrow ledge. We shall see what happens. I will say that what you think and say and do today will ultimately have some telling result in respect of what happens to you.

Visible sings: 911 was an Inside Job by Les Visible♫ Bush Family History Lesson ♫
'Bush Family History Lesson' is track no. 5 of 10 on Visible's 2002 album
'911 was an Inside Job'

911 was an Inside Job by Les Visible


Visible said...

There's a new Visible Origami entry Here

Visible said...

There is a new chapter for Spiritual Survival in a Temporal World Here

Anonymous said...

Stefan Zweig, The Austrian Jewish writer about German's 1934-39 years...
The book is "The World Yesterday".
Adolf Hitler was coming and coming, and it was so obvious that he is coming that many Germans ( mostly Jews) have already transfer themselves to London.
In London they were crying: "it's coming!
it's coming! we SAW it's coming!"
Londoners smiled and went about their business as usual...
Chamberlain flew from London and back as the national hero: "The Pact of NON-Aggression " was signed by Adolf personally. ( The price was Czechoslovakia).
Molotov of Soviet Union flew from Moscow and Adolf signed " The Pact Of the NON-Aggression" with Soviet Union.
( Price was Poland)
...There are 13 Christian Crusades to Middle East, since we celebrate the life of Christ.
All of them were based on lies.
Now, our Western Jews are suffocating Life overthere for to Christ's Homecoming...
...My idiotic Civilization of Western hanniballs has produced the Biblical play with the most horrific end.
And - agreed with it.
Les is right: go to his Visible Origami or his Spiritual Suvival sites. There are still plants which produce flowers and people an learn how to glorify The Unmanifested Power of Life.

...Inside The Westerns there is plenty "Insides Jobs" planned and it is coming.

OneTrackMike said...

I've been reading you for some time. This is my first post.

What's it gonna take? WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE?

"Maybe it happened the way the government says... maybe it didn't. Either way it doesn't effect me so... I DON'T CARE!"

This is what we're up against. Is terrible upheaval the inevitable outcome?

You are my hero, les.

Anonymous said...

Good piece! You must be reading my thoughts. It is disgusting and depressing for sure, it really doesn't help to understand the reasons either.
For me it seems that people are primarily "joiners". The like to be lead (easier than taking responsibility and suffering the pain of actually thinking for themselves!). This is not lost on those who seek to control. Just think about your own life. If you went to school was it about educating you and fostering an interest in knowledge? Maybe it was about reinforcing the concept of "group-think". It certainly was not about critical thinking.
So, while I do not in any way condone the current state of affairs among the flock of mindless bipeds who graze contentedly on methane-laced fodder so generously provided by their "leaders", it is, after all, understandable. People in general are self-serving. The "Controller's" knowledge of this is perhaps their most powerful weapon. They know how to "tempt the sinner". For some of us this is also quite logical. After all, they are the personification of evil.
Sadly, I wouldn't waste a lot of time and effort in the expectation of any big epiphany in the general population. They are quite content to live in their dream and gobble their goodies.
Do we have a moral and ethical obligation to inform them of their error? Absolutely! But be forewarned, if you think the Controllers will turn on you for pointing to the obvious, just wait until the sleepers get hold of you. The one thing these sheep have in common is a profound abhorance of responsibility. If they have to acknowledge their complicity they will kill the messenger. That's what will happen when they get their martial law thing in place. They'll just call in the dogs!

Anonymous said...

Low candy man interest rates and the promises of cheap pirated oil made Americans amd all the Willing made them accomplices-killers and planderers. When I asked my 28 yearold son in 2003 about the massive arab killings,his responce was-" he liked the idea of stolen oil for his benefit. Now, that prices are high and America is tanking,he is quiet on te subject.
This greed for gain,has stupified Americans so much that they are not aware that on Sept11 2001,America was nuked by low level radition bombs. Pelosi does not want to impeach Bush because it will tie Billy Goat Clinton to the 1996 another Pearl Harbour operation approval and funding. Bush could not have pulled the 911 capper in 8 months.
Why this hasn't been covered-
'One of the sources for both Webb and Hutchins was former top U.S. Air Force Brigadier General Thomas L. Tinsley, who was in the North American Aero Space Defense Command, NORAD, on September 11, 2001 and has been blamed for failure to alert American military forces to the on-going attacks that took place on 9/11.

Tinsley was recently assassinated by the Bush-Clinton-Israeli MOSSAD "TRUE COLORS" assassination teams from a gun shot to his chest."

Anonymous said...

Les. I often wonder if there is any life left out there in the big world.
Then some one, a person like yourself, comes a long and reminds me that there is. It gives me the fire I need to keep trying.
It gets so hard sometimes. most people I know live in their own wee world of self. unaware of the real world around them.

The world around us is changing at the pace of a rollercoaster ride and the mind boggles as it tries to comprehend the twists and turns and G-forces placed upon it. One minute it’s plain sailing and the next its up-side-down in a hula-hoop and our brain cells explode and then regroup only to find the horizon has changed.
read the rest here

Les keep up the good work.

Anonymous said...


You don't believe the "9/11 Ommission Commission?"

Oh my gosh, what to do, what to do.

Maybe people that question the Bush/Cheney Junta's 9/11 story should be sent to 're-education' camps, like the ones being built by KBR that are springing up all over the USA.

Yeah, and staff the places with homicidal Blackwater goon squads, fresh back from the killing fields of Iraq and Iran.

There, they can waterboard you seditious types until you you proclaim belief in the "offical" 9/11 story, yeah, that would work.

Of course, there would be some collateral damage of those who refused to believe the 935 documented lies and counting told to them by the Bush/Cheney Junta and those would either die or sustain brain damage.

But, you know what they say about making an omelet.

And the dead bodies?

Easy to dispose of. We just transfer them to those floating Navy brig ships, take them out into the ocean and give them a pair of concrete boots for their watery journey.

See you in Davy Jones Locker!

Anonymous said...

Les... Just wanted to say "Well said" and "Well done"!

Though the times are unsettling, I am enheartened by finding that there are more of us out here than the MSM would have us believe... In fact, we may very well be the majority of the species members!

In Peace, Hope, and Solidarity...

Adam said...

Lest we forget, Congresstraitor Tim Roemer ADMITTED a missile hit the Pentagon.

Mike M C said...

"Sadly, I wouldn't waste a lot of time and effort in the expectation of any big epiphany in the general population."

The idiots high up will forego the growth and advancement of Western civilization by locking down the Internet. Excercise your freedom to express while you can. Tell your neighbors, friends, and family.

Anonymous said...

> three trillion dollars went missing and which was announced the day before 9/11 by Donald Rumsfield and which never got mentioned again because 9/11 happened

This is false. The story about not being able to track money through the system appeared at the latest on March 3, 2000:

Moreover, it did get mentioned after 911:

Be careful of using the word "missing" in this context. That's not exactly what they've said. The claim is that some transactions are poorly documented, but that it should eventually be possible to track the money down by going through various data bases. Maybe that story is a just a cover, but it's not clear that it is. But again, the story had already appeared by March 2000, long before 911.

Visible said...

What is it with some of you people?

Here's my comment;

"You have a dual national who was in charge of the Pentagon’s money while somewhere around three trillion dollars went missing and which was announced the day before 9/11 by Donald Rumsfield and which never got mentioned again because 9/11 happened. You’ve got things like this showing up every day."

Where in that comment do you see me saying that was the only time it ever got mentioned? It's been widely discussed in blogs so that couldn't be what I mean could it?

I was trying to call attention to the timing of the announcement. Anal retentiveness can be difficult I know. Try to comprehend what I was up to as for your comment on what really happened that's just speculation on your part and parroting the administrations take. I have no idea what happened to the money but three trillion dollars doesn't just get lost in accounting. If you want to nitpick have at it.

I'm not a journalist.

Visible said...

To further clarify since you'll probably still not get it; never mentioned by Donald Rumsfield again (so far as I know)

Anonymous said...

Hello Les. As always more power to you. If 10% of Americans had one half the intelligence and courage that you possess then the World would be a much safer place. As you said, perhaps Americans deserve what they have coming if they don`t cease to be the ignorant pariahs of the planet that they are (which explains why the jew terrorists set their vulture eyes on America and why they were able to overthrow it so easily).

9/11 inside job pt.2 should be quite interesting. Should the psycopaths pull another one off to have a war with Iran (and who knows who else) the best thing that can happen is it will spell the end of the American/israeli/english terrorist reptiles in the middle east once and for all. Amen.

kikz said...

'I always wondered how history could have happened the way that it did.. It always seemed to me that people could not be as stupid and deluded as they appeared to be. I was wrong. You can see it now.'

it does indeed take the love of a christ, not to reach and retain a mindset of utter disgust at this willful stupidity and those who embody it.

since it is a given that the most christlike (moral & ethical elite) among us, never seek attainment of power and control, is it then any wonder those least christlike do, and w/o any compassion, sympathy or guilt regard the mass of humanity as so much garbage?

but... some would ask.... where are those who would lead us out of this tyranny?

"Pike speaks to this in his opus, Morals & Dogma...

We should naturally suppose that a nation in distress would take counsel with the wisest of its sons. But, on the contrary, small men never so bold to insist on infesting place, as when mediocrity and incapable pretense and sophomoric freeness, and showy and sprightly incompetency are most dangerous.

The Divine in human nature disappears, and interest, greed, and selfishness take its place.

The consequence is, that those who feel themselves competent and qualified to serve the people, refuse with disgust to enter into the struggle for office, where the wicked and jesuitical doctrine that all is fair in politics is an excuse for every species of low villany ... Rather than descend to this, they stand contemptuously aloof, disdainfully refusing to court the people, and acting on the maxim, that 'mankind has no title to demand that we shall serve them in spite of themselves.'"

no one is coming to save the day.

as opposed to stupidity... ignorance is teachable, salvageable.
we of this age gifted with this greatest of tools transcending time & space, (the internet) have the opportunity and the duty of obligation to any and all we can reach/teach, to help overcome ignorance with the literal speed of 'light'.
greater potential for humanity's gain has never before existed.

les, i don't do this nearly often enough, but thank you for your efforts here.

D.L. said...

I've read a lot of your stuff, Les, and IMHO most of it is filled with much angst. I've been hoping you'd get a bit more optimistic about folks seeing the light. Well, I really like this piece of yours because it is much more optimistic than others I've read recently. The fact is most, though you can talk to them til your blue in the face, won't come on board the truth express. It's not stupidity and it's not greed, and it's not even racism/religious hatred/ethnic hatred. Most people are just too damned afraid of being seen as non-conformist, or "conspiracy freaks" or "fringe wackos." Folks don't want to lose friends. folks don't want to be lonely or alone. Folks don't want to alienate family members or relatives or co-workers. There is not enough benefit to most people to go against the grain. In fact I believe--as a lifelong non-conformist who has always felt the "outsider" even if I wasn't--that unless one grows up comfortable with not being just like everyone esle, these folks are never likely to understand or accept the truth. I hope you get over any angst you feel (and you may not have angst, it's just that some of your article reek of it!), since there isn't a whole lot you're going to be able to do about it. The best part of your piece is that you acknowledge a "remnant" that will keep on keeping on no matter what. And, BTW, the "Them" that drive the hate and lies WILL get what's coming to them! And pretty soon, I suspect.

bruno said...

Less, what do you you expect from a population fed fluoride in their drinking water? I understand that the Nazis started using fluoride in the 30's to dummy up and pacify the prisoners in the camps... Add to that the fact that a great percentage of the citizens are on Prozak,or any other kind of sedation,and most are being fed propaganda through newspapers and airwaves, this is the result.
Obviously, we're part of a few who do not have to struggle for a living...
We have the luxury of having leisure time and the inclination to devote it to find the truth.
When one's life is devoted to survival,they don't take the time to think for themselves... that's the "matrix" that they cannot free themselves from...
We are the lucky ones... "knowledge is supposed to be power, yet we are powerless, the only option being to turn off, from what I understand this is what you did... the others have the option of ignorance..."Bliss" defined by a trip to the mall or "Wally World" to buy Chinese goods.
Tolstoy's theory was that of "determinisme historique", where events have to unfold.
So, we are surfers on the wave of history,the difference being that we are aware of the wave...Most are not...they do the best they can do under their circumstances.

Anonymous said...

Deb, you seem to be like several others who have shown up here today. Angst is not something I would associate with this author. Angst, as far as I understand it is fear and apprehension. As for a lack of positive viewpoint it appears you haven't read much of the work here, especially the last three preceding this one. They are enormously positive. It seems like you went and read something at another location and then decided to post your comment here. I can't connect what you had to say with what happens on this site. I just can't.


Anonymous said...

Another excellent post, Visible. However, I think your negative focus on 'net porn as some sort of sign of human degradation is somewhat misguided. The desire to view sex is probably among the most pervasive in the human species -- throughout the entire time time of our existence. Having it online just makes it easier to oogle -- as opposed to the embarrassment of buying the latest Playboy magazine in days of yore.

If you want to talk about the focus on materialism and trivial vagaries, I'm with you 100%. Leave the online porn along, though. While there is a lunatic fringe that caters to rape, etc., the vast majority of it is just in good fun.

Anonymous said...

The reason we aren't doing anything is because we are all realizing simultaneously this has been going on since the dawn of civilization.
The United States was born of war and has started, fought and ended wars since it began. The United States has always been as corrupt as it is and we have always dealt with it the best we can. Shielded by our mainstream news and rich fabrication culture.
From the Slaughter of Native Americans to Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
What more proof do we need?

It's such a shame. We all want The United States to be what it was supposed to be. The Constitution looks so good on Paper.

That those who dreamt it and wrote it were slave Owners, oh well. Take the good with the bad.

In my life, everything is changed by 9/11. I have been terrorized.

Where is my power?

Anonymous said...

Here are some documented 9/11 facts:

1) There is absolutely no video showing any of the 266 alleged people boarding any of the flights.

2) There has not been one corpse of any of the alleged passengers, any of their luggage, or any debris proven to have come from either a 757 or a 767, much less any of the alleged specific flights, recovered from any of the crash sites. There have been no remains returned to any alleged relatives, and there have been no funeral arrangements for any of them.

3) A woman named Ellen Mariani spent five years searching for relatives of 64 people on "Flight 175's" passenger list. She never found anybody.

4) Willie Brown, along with a number of clergymen, went to San Francisco International Airport in the aftermath of 9/11. This is a routine procedure, for the mayor of a city and others to go to the airport to meet with surviving family members/relatives to console them, and/or to possibly give them information on what happened. Brown and the clergymen left after NOBODY SHOWED UP.

5) Official government documentation on the web sites of both the BTS and the FAA verified that the two AA flights were not even scheduled to fly on 9/11, and the tail numbers registered to the two UA flights were listed as "valid," meaning in service, until September 28, 2005. The BTS altered its own web pages in late 2004 after a 9/11 researcher pointed out the criminal implications, and the FAA only de-registered the two UA flights after two other 9/11 researchers made repeated inquiries into why the two planes were still listed as active.

6) Neither one of those two airlines has ever filed a loss claim with their insurance carriers over those four specific flights. EVER. This is positive proof that the airlines are completely involved in the ongoing government cover-up.

7) On 9/11, according to the FAA registry of pilots, not one of the eight alleged pilots had a current, valid commercial pilot's license.

So, no commercial airliners were involved in the attacks. Regardless of whether they actually used planes or, as I strongly suspect (and as painstaking study of the videos seems to confirm), photo-shopped planes over video taken of explosions inside the WTC buildings due to pre-planted explosives such as thermite and/or thermate, none of the alleged passengers or flight crews were on any of the alleged flights. In fact, there are a ton of reasons why they would not have used planes at all; there are way too many things that could go wrong.

And to the poster who said, "Americans aren't as stupid as you think they are," WRONG, boyo.

Ben There said...

As always Les, inciteful and insightful.

You're on a roll right now; new offerings on all three venues. Thanks for the latest entry over at Just Get There. Enjoyed it thoroughly and I've definitely picked up a couple new tools for my belt since you've been doing your thing there.

Justin_n_IL said...

When taking an honest look at America's government of today one sees corruption beyond measure. Is America's problem it's government? The answer to that is yes and no. The government was not the beginning of her problem but it is and will be at the center of her demise. America's government is a mirror image of the American society as a whole. A society that wants something for nothing. A society that expects much gain with little or no pain. A society that has gone mad with covetousness. A society which is the opposite of the one that gave birth to America. The government of America is a product of that which the American society has evolved into. You might say that America is reaping that which she has sown. Those who sow corruption shall reap corruption. The pressing problem is the absence of moral fiber. Fibers of honesty, love for thy neighbor, the willingness to declare evil as being evil, a willingness to not only recognize but face painful truths, and the list goes on and on. The more I study the quotes of the founding fathers the more I shake my head in agreement with them. The great experiment that started with the bloody uprising against tyranny is now about to be consumed thereby. I have listed below a number of such quotes as mentioned above. GOD granted this rebellious band of men much wisdom and insight. One must ask himself what was the ultimate purpose of GOD for creating America? I will touch on that proceeding the quotes.

Every child in America should be acquainted with his own country. He should read books that furnish him with ideas that will be useful to him in life and practice. As soon as he opens his lips, he should rehearse the history of his own country.(Not the case in modern America)

Noah Webster, On the Education of Youth in America, 1788

A general dissolution of principles and manners(As is the case in modern America) will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader(As is the case in modern America).

Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779

No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved(Not the case in modern America.). On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. (As is the case in modern America)

Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

Nothing is more certain than that a general profligacy and corruption of manners make a people ripe for destruction(As is the case in modern America). A good form of government may hold the rotten materials together for some time, but beyond a certain pitch, even the best constitution will be ineffectual, and slavery must ensue.

John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men, 1776

Nothing is more essential to the establishment of manners in a State than that all persons employed in places of power and trust must be men of unexceptionable characters(Not the case in modern America).

Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

Nothing so strongly impels a man to regard the interest of his constituents, as the certainty of returning to the general mass of the people, from whence he was taken, where he must participate in their burdens.(No longer the case for such men)

George Mason, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 14, 1778

O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone; and you have no longer an aristocratical, no longer a democratical spirit. Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation, brought about by the punishment of those in power, inflicted by those who had no power at all? (Which is exactly why you will see no great reforming revolution in America.)

Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

Government, in my humble opinion, should be formed to secure and to enlarge the exercise of the natural rights of its members(Just the opposite in modern America); and every government, which has not this in view, as its principal object, is not a government of the legitimate kind.(Sound like a government you know of?)

James Wilson, Lectures on Law, 1791

Guard with jealous attention the public liberty(The modern American's are to busy watching television and consuming to spend time on such a petty thing. The band plays on as the ship sinks.). Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.(As is the case in modern America)

Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

How prone all human institutions have been to decay; how subject the best-formed and most wisely organized governments have been to lose their check and totally dissolve; how difficult it has been for mankind, in all ages and countries, to preserve their dearest rights and best privileges, impelled as it were by an irresistible fate of despotism.(The mind of modern America deems America as being unique and above all those who came before her. Pompous, high minded, and arrogant comes to mind. In her mind she sits as a queen and shall never know the loss of children.)

James Monroe, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 10, 1788

If all the delegates named for this Convention at Philadelphia are present, we will ever have seen, even in Europe, an assembly more respectable for the talents, knowledge, disinterestedness, and patriotism of those who compose it. (Kudos)

Otto (French charge d'affaires), letter to the Comite de Montmorin, April 10, 1787
If men of wisdom and knowledge, of moderation and temperance, of patience, fortitude and perseverance, of sobriety and true republican simplicity of manners, of zeal for the honour of the Supreme Being and the welfare of the commonwealth; if men possessed of these other excellent qualities are chosen to fill the seats of government, we may expect that our affairs will rest on a solid and permanent foundation. (Pipe dream)
Samuel Adams, letter to Elbridge Gerry, November 27, 1780

If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security. (Security breach, Security breach, Security breach)
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779

In a general sense, all contributions imposed by the government upon individuals for the service of the state, are called taxes, by whatever name they may be known, whether by the name of tribute, tythe, tallage, impost, duty, gabel, custom, subsidy, aid, supply, excise, or other name. (Let's add monetary inflation to that list.)
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833

It is an object of vast magnitude that systems of education should be adopted and pursued which may not only diffuse a knowledge of the sciences but may implant in the minds of the American youth the principles of virtue and of liberty and inspire them with just and liberal ideas of government and with an inviolable attachment to their own country. (Modern America has dropped that ball.)
Noah Webster, On the Education of Youth in America

It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.
Richard Henry Lee, letter to Colonel Martin Pickett, March 5, 1786

It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth — and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those, who having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?(The answer to that is yes in modern America. Which of course is why they will cry out to the last King of Babylon to save them. By peace he will destroy many. Peace and safety, Peace and safety) For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it might cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.
Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775

It is necessary for every American, with becoming energy to endeavor to stop the dissemination of principles evidently destructive of the cause for which they have bled. It must be the combined virtue of the rulers and of the people to do this, and to rescue and save their civil and religious rights from the outstretched arm of tyranny, which may appear under any mode or form of government(Republicans and Democrats).
Mercy Warren, History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution, 1805

Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them. (That has a familiar ring to it.)
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833

The public cannot be too curious concerning the characters of public men.(In modern America rotten character is accepted and even laughed about. Truly such men are a product of the public itself.)

Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

If the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.(As is the case in modern America.)

Candidus, in the Boston Gazette, January 20, 1772

Without liberty, law loses its nature and its name, and becomes oppression. Without law, liberty also loses its nature and its name, and becomes licentiousness.

James Wilson, Of the Study of the Law in the United States, Circa 1790

Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.(Sound like a people you know of?)

Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, Circa 1749

If the above men knew what they were talking about then what does that say about modern America? Her fate is sealed? She is already 50 feet off the cliff and the sheer momentum of her chase for idols keeps her delusion intact?

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Anonymous said...

9/11 is serious topic and some clown has to promote porn; as he put it, is fun. Geeze what a smuck! The moral caliber of such is equal to the same 9/11 mentality of denial... Definately a brain dis order.

Thanks for the reminder Les, well done! I just have to believe this whole idea of truth is not for not. When clowns come around and make fun with sickening ideologies as the poster porn king here, well, I just have to step back and wonder why bother, for this planet is filled with this crap. This poster has to be a plant cause he sure as hell got to me grossed out...'the reality of it all' very satanic/evil minded...

Which, also reminds me of the fact that Judiasim teaches that Jews are here to make God complete. Imagine that 'God not being complete (let us all follow the incomlete one)'... Satan/evil too believed it was a duty to make the grade 'so to speak'no bars held...Satan/evil was sent to earth to party (dominion over the earth) but Satan/evil has no authority if we do not give it to him. So with that, here is a message for you evil doers and promoters of the same, "get thee behind me Satan"!!!

With technology today, soon enough we will not have to worry about decency... for either we will all blow 'particle physics high energy...' to pieces or be blown 'like glass'(brain science) into machines and some will actually move into a higher plane of existence. Personally, in the interim, I have no problem kicking some Satanic butt out of my way...

Anonymous said...

I just had an epiphany:

So...the reason given for the lackluster response to the events of September 11th, 2001, is that there was a "drill" in place that simulated the actual terror event?


This wasn't a dry run; there must have been practice drills leading up to this...AND THEY FAILED!!!

Come on...wouldn't uo FIRE these incompentents? Yet, many of them were PROMOTED.

Anonymous said...

“Some people are more stupid than it is possible to imagine.” I’ve met a lot of individuals that fall into that category. “It is trivia that occupies the mind of most people.” Couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve never played a video game in my life and don’t much care for organized sports. As far as 911 goes most people I come in contact with can only parrot what they read in the newspapers or see on TV. As you said some might smell a rat but are afraid of the truth. People don’t think, they have feelings and opinions and we know where their opinions come from. I have a sign on the back of my truck, “to an indoctrinated mind the truth is a radical idea.” There are lots of indoctrinated minds out there.
Our three branches of government and the controlled media are all complacent in 911. They are in a position to do something/investigate and they sit with their finger up their ass. Either out of fear, ignorance, whatever you will never see official open unbiased dialogue on this matter. It is mind boggling, thousands of Americans murdered, hundreds of people willing to testify, and they are completely ignored. Wake up folks, there is NO GOVERNMENT IN THIS COUNTRY. What more evidence do you need. We have a Corptocracy, (Mussolini) with a government of, by, and for the corporations. There is big money in wars, the more the merrier and to hell with the people. Lets face it there is no system to bring these individuals to justice. Our founding fathers slipped up in this regard. After the Constitution was signed, wasn’t it John Adams that said we have a “Republic if we can keep it.” Well, we lost it a long time ago and it ain’t coming back.


Anonymous said...

Anonymous re: 9/11 facts: Interesting that you brought all that stuff up. Project Camelot did an interview with John Lear (son of the Lear Jet founder). John Lear was a pilot who holds numerous flight records - most aircraft etc. Also flew for the CIA at one time.
Anyway, he surmised that the planes that supposedly hit the buildings were actually holograms. Apparently we've had this technology for some time - according to him. He also surmises that a third jet(I think) was to have hit WTC-7 but there was some sort of malfunction with the holographic equipment. if I remember correctly, he believed that the entire event was coordinated from WTC-7, and the CIA/Mossad needed to cover their tracks, so they pulled the plug on WTC-7 after starting the fire.
Lear goes on to say that he doubted that he could have flown those jets into those buildings - that's how difficult it would have been.
At first i thought he was nuts. Then I remembered a British guy who was ex-MI5 who doubted the official version - His interviewer said "we all saw the planes hit those buildings" his response: "NO, we saw SOMETHING hit those buildings."
Food for thought.
The last guy i talked to about 9/11 didn't even know a third WTC came down. He doubted it happened at first. As we talked further he just smiled and said "i don't even want to know".
I've found alot of the non-belief to be generational - the over 60 crowd in particular seems to be unable to grasp the concept of 9/11 as an inside job. I'm 48, and I'd say my generation is a little more open to it, but still just don't want to get it.
Hopefully the youth can carry the ball - I dunno.

Anonymous said...

To anonymous (5:38) above. You say Americans are not as stupid as we think you are? If Americans were told The Flintstones were behind 9/11 you would all be screaming "Bomb Bedrock!" No one would be surprised if you red, white and duh morons still believed the earth was flat. In addition to your unbounded ignorance you are also hopelessly delusional. If you were not these things you would not be "Americans".

Thankfully not every American (like Les Visible) is the above. God bless that quintet.

Anonymous said...

there is a very nice graph of the treachery:

some players are missing, but it sums up pretty much who was behind it, and why.

Anonymous said...

The human psychology experts are highly prized these days. Manufacturing public consent and mass manipulation of opinion couldn't be more important. Enough Americans have demonstrated complacency and continue to lend legitimacy to key government officials - officials with dark agendas.

Visible said...

It's funny how the texture and quality of the responses change from time to time as the respondents change.

I also got some strange emails.

At the same time there's this Chomsky wanna-be at the site Best of the Fray (he pretends to a relationship with Chomsky) that I linked to in the article. He goes by the nickname Nairobi Trio and is constantly saying that 9/11 didn't matter and things like the Mai Lai massacre was a much bigger deal along with Reagan contra.

His name's David Halitsky and a googling of his name reveals a man widely despised in poetry forums around the net. He's a Zionist shill and works hard to downplay the event because he knows the Zionists were involved in the attack.

You can see that he has attacked me yet again; this time he is suggesting life long drug abuse on my part and playing Madame Cleo about the earlier part of my life of which he knows nothing. I post as apollonius and you can see the post about halfway down the page. It is interesting to see how widespread the effort is in so many locations

Visible said...

Petkov, as I have pointed out in the past, I don't print gratuitous insults from wankers. You say the same thing all of the time, that this blog is useless and all bloggers are useless and so on and so forth. Having said it once it is not necessary to allow you to repeat yourself over and over. Your own blog has one post that has been there for months. Now go away and play in traffic or piss in a light socket, either is fine with me.

Anonymous said...

I was witness to the big lie in 1963, [Oswald did it] I witnessed the same lie again on 911 [ Osama bin ladin did it]. And yes they are planning another terrorist attack, to go along with the collaspe of the economy, to go along with the invasion of Iran, to go along with suspending the elections so George can finally have the Congress declare him "King George" and his military tribunal. I would say Emporer but that is reserved for the Pope.

These are not just some evil men who can't get a hold of enough money, these evil men are world wide and they are on the same agenda and they work in perfect unison in order to deceive the world of who they are. Including those in Iran. And they don't mind leaving evidence all over the place of their corruption and crimes because, they police themselves.

NO ONE IN WASHINGTON lifted a finger when Earl Warren told his lie in sept of 64. NO ONE. This is a historical fact. NO ONE. Even with the stone cold evidence of this phenomenol truth, very, very few will accept this fact that they ARE ALL TIED TO EACH OTHER, ALL OF THEM TODAY JUST LIKE THEY WERE IN 1964.

ALL of them, do you hear me? every single one of them and that INCLUDES your Ron Paul, who has been around for over twenty years spitting the truth of their corruption and crimes right back in their faces.

NO ONE and I mean NO ONE, [not even Presidents] are allowed to do that and live to tell about it. They're putting Mr Paul on hold in case they need him to calm the people down after King George gets done what needs to be done for the NEW WORLD and its order of things because it has become apparant the people have to be removed from their government in order to get this done.

They are so close to their 2500 year old dream they can taste it and they don't mind telling you about it. The closer they get, the more reckless they become.

It's not about you and I and THEM anymore, it never has been. It's about JESUS CHRIST and the Devil.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood".

They ...and who THEY are...I also have historical fact, called the WORD of GOD as it is given to me and "THEY SAY THEY ARE JEWS, THEY ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN" or in more plain english THE ZIONISTS OF THE WORLD and THEY left Babylon some 2500 years ago to do exactly what they are doing today.

I have a dump truck full of incriminating, circumstantial,coincidental evidence and all of it leads to a World Government and He who will take the seat of Solomon, and the Vatican, and who Christianity will accept as JESUS CHRIST.

They [synagogue of satan] are convinced there is no Jesus Christ, they met him in Babylon 2500 years ago.

regards Duane

RML said...

Viz --
There's something about Chumpsky et al that gives me pause. Yes, they put nationalism (as in fascism) before logic, truth and their responsibility. They put their universities' grants, fundings, loans, etc. ahead of their obligation of being human; and human with mega-intelligences.

I'm not wanking on them, I'm reminding myself about the response from John D Rockefeller when asked about the perpetuation of the Ponzi banking/power elite scams. He said (then) that most Americans were dumb, and the ones with intelligence (ergo, power) would be drawn into the schemes for personal aggrandizement, like the proverbial moths-to-the-flame. The remaining few, not worth his precious time.

In other words, almost everyone in a position of political, economic, social, religious and academic power has been COMPROMISED -- rendered impotent by what the elite hold over their heads. Should we simply ignore (as the shrills want us to) the amazing efficacy of PROMIS? Should we believe that it never got out of the beta stage?

My reason for bringing this up is a scenario that could very well happen. The inner and outer power is shifting -- in the outer; the Likud/neo-cons have been pink-slipped. They are not going quietly. Also throw in the mix the Hegelian triad that ALWAYS allows the elite to steal any and all revolutions right at the peak of their manifestation. These revolutions have been in thought, politics, religion, and economics.

The elite do not have the imagination or inspiration to initiate their own Change. They secretly fund the progressivism, steal it, then change it for their own ends.

I won't be surprised or taken-in when the media suddenly “appears” to come clean -- laying out that, yes, 9-11 was an "inside" job -- just as we have surmised. They will say that it was a likely Likud/neo-con cabal, and quite suddenly, America's connection with Israel will be cut. Likud and Moussad will take the sword. We will be ecstatic, zingged with exuberance that we have won!!

But, right at that point -- at the pinnacle of victory -- it will turn to dust in our mouths. For all of this has been planned: the event, OUR reaction to the event, with a synthesis that has yet to be revealed. It won't matter who the perps were. It won't matter that logic and common sense prevailed.

This is what the elite have done throughout recorded history. This is what troubles me about the entire scenario – especially our reactionary albeit logical response.

Are we thinking checkers when we should be thinking chess?

Ben There said...

Les - Here's a question for you or anyone else who could shed some light on this for me. As I've stated before, I'm behind the curve on the 9/11 events (the real events). I'm 3/4 of the way through "The New Pearl Harbor" by David Ray Griffin and as of yet there is no mention of Mossad involvement; but I keep seeing that here and other places.

Any ideas on why he doesn't mention Mossad? Disinfo agent? Or maybe I'm missing something?

Anonymous said...

Les, I took a peek at "The best of the Fray" and found it to be just like any other "discussion" forum - an endless parade of people who "know" arguing with others who "know' the opposite. It is quite the display of the now epidemic cognitive dissonance and on and on it goes - a perfect distraction and consumer of mental energy. I have no clue why you would continue to subject yourself to that kind of exchange, but admit that I have spent many fruitless hours "engaging" my opposites in such forums. It feels like banging my head against the wall and I try to avoid it at all costs.

I, too, get the sense that something is brewing. It is thick in the air, and even those that are asleep can feel it I think. I just want to encourage everyone to cling less to the pusuit of "small" truths and keep your eyes on the "big picture". It is so easy to be consumed with the details and to try to convince others of the "truths" found in individual pursuits, thus having little left but frustration because more people don't see as we want them to. What do we really, honestly "know" anyway? And if we come to know something as an absolute, don't we then fold our arms and cease to allow opportunity for growth or new, important info to enter? That is what I see in the "Fray" and all those internet forums - a bunch of virtual know-it-alls that like to posture, refuse to engage in honest dialog, and stomp their feet and call their "opponents" names when they are not worshipped as great bringers of truth. It is simply a pissing contest with very, very few positive results, and a huge distraction that allows people to think they are "doing something" to further their cause. I have been threatened with violence on more than one occasion for presenting my opinions, and no longer feel the need to try and convince anyone of anything. It's not my job, and there are more important things to do with my time and energy. If someone asks my opinion, I will give it, otherwise it stays with me and is constantly being refined anyway, so it is important to me to simply suggest avenues of exploration and offer support rather than deliver anything as a "truth".

Hey, distractions are good sometimes, but even as I seek to occasionally "tune out" these days, I always seem to find subtle (or not so) reminders of my current pursuits. Sitting down and watching the movie "Revolver" the other night, a movie I avoided for some time because it looked on the outside like a stylish, violent shoot-'em up movie (it was), I was smacked hard upside the head by the message in the movie. Mysterious ways, indeed.

Thanks for the good message, and for keeping up the high standards here. It would be sad if this place became another arena for the kind of pointless crap that is represented by "The Fray". Z

Anonymous said...

Here's a little something for the poster who mentioned John Lear:

Anonymous said...

Ben, the Mossad was not mentionable till pretty recent, 7 years or so give or take... was too risky/secret. Kinda like the ol Italian mafia, when they were strong no one wanted to go light (RICO Law) was shed on the operation, folks began to see them as thugs and many just would not bow...

I met a clown in the mall last week. Here in Colorado right at the foothills, is an outlet mall. Has Neiman Marcus, Saks Fifth...and dang, you can get a 200.00 dollar item for 5 dollars...anyhow, I dont get out much but 5 bucks is do-able once a month..though it takes hours to find, I escape the gitmo of the computer...and find refuge in humanity 'though most of it is pretty sick...'

They have what r called kiosks up and down the isles of this mall. For some time 'months, maybe years' I have been reeled in by the workers...they have strong accents and come to find are majority; Israeli from Israel. This kid grabbed my attention and we spoke for some time. Eventually he revealed to me that the Mossad is of all Intel agencies not just Israeli. Point being, was a shocker to me but very logical considering brain science, mind control technologies 'this day and age'... this kid '31 yrs old' is convinced Israel rules America (via Mossad) he was in the military in his country as every other woman/man child is obligated to be...

Being an American myself and minding my own American business, I get greeted, by mostly Israeli's from your local kiosk owner to the state of the art scientists 'molecular inventors (synthetic)' coming at me with full armour...trying to convince me over to that side 'darkness...'

Mossad is a name and who know who plays the game so if you do not get the connect in some info you come across, you may not be missing much but a bunch of ding...not to say is not serious smelling...

The Mossad fully infiltrated the CIA in the early to mid 80's 'silent coup' Bush Sr figured it out and joined the operation via 'mind control'quickly. His 'Bush' power in such circles faciliated the other agencies to follow suit via same concept 'brain sciences... (silent coup)' and voila here we are.

Now, with the cat out of the bag 'internet...' there is a mix but at the end of the day the battle was won at the beginning, we just get to watch it all play out. Evil never prevails where there is no time 'sub atomic levels where the real energy, power, forces reside.

Visible said...

Hi Ben;

The reason he doesn't mention it is because very few people would due to the shit storm that follows like Walt and Mearsheimer ran into and they didn't say anything like that.

Ben There said...

Thanks for the info Teresa and Les. So I'm assuming that in your opinion, Griffin's work is legit?

Teresa - How funny about the kiosks. We have the exact same thing here in Texas. About a month ago I was pulled in, literally, by a kiosks girl with a strong accent who was asking me if I "knew what was going on in Israel". I declined that conversation and her attempt to rub some bath salts or something on my hands...

Anonymous said...

Never been to “the best of the fray” but it sounds something like the old Yahoo financial message boards before Yahoo totally screwed them up. There was a lot of good information and links and also a lot of crap. Many of the posters were funny, it was a good time. I remember the csco board. Man there were some real cards over there. When the pope died they got completely out of hand. Yahoo shut it down for a while. I did most of my posting on mer and hal. In the final analysis we were making too many converts to our way of thinking. (Smoking Mirrors)and I'm sure Yahoo was under pressure to do something. As an example, the disinfo guys can’t present a logical argument promoting the gov line on 911 and some of the idiot posters were just entertaining. Once a person hears the truth and does some investigating on their own there is no going back. I only wish Les had a larger audience, or better yet the New York Times would syndicate him. (fat chance) Fortunately there are others like Les and together they will make a difference.


faithful forever said...

Duane said:

"I have a dump truck full of incriminating, circumstantial,coincidental evidence and all of it leads to a World Government and He who will take the seat of Solomon, and the Vatican, and who Christianity will accept as JESUS CHRIST."

I would love to hear the rest of your thoughts. Stay blessed.

Anonymous said...

The Mossad takes down Dynasties 'if they can' so imagine what power they have on an individuals level.

I first came across them 20 years ago. My neurosurgeon (I had spinal injury from a car wreck...) was and is still Mossad and connected to CIA. This man knew things and operated in ways that it took me 20 years of scholarly research to confirm thus believe myself . I knew as of the day he asked me out for coffee to discuss why he had declined a prescription for a wheelchair for me, he instead took me to a remote area of Dallas and raped me, he proceeded to pull out his little gun 'from his glove box' and inform me that because of who he was he could kill me and be out of jail in 15 minutes, thus I had better not ever expose him for he promised this to be my fate if I did. OMG, this was just the beginning of what these whacko's did to me and my children...

Why am I still alive, well it is about the Van Buren Trust and they want this dynasty (trillions of unencumered cash out value)...they think they have a good chance with me (spent decades infiltrating and grooming me for this hostile takeover via more theft...)and they know it is too easy to accidentally take me out via torture and am worth more alive at this point.

From that day of hell on, I promised myself I would find out how it is this could be. and what, if anything, I could do about it.' I Studied the brain, studied Judaism, RICO law and every aspect of physics at a scholars level to get to know what I have come to know. I befriended em all simultaneously and they learned to love and hate me as I climbed the ladder as quickly as they could chase me... They make double agents with their brain science like we make a cup of tea.

As for me personally, my doctor raped me and got away with it even after I formally reported him, this really sickens me 'Mossad or not' he made me his white slave and did it with much pride. Every now and then he comes out 'sleeper...' and causes more havoc and I imagine he will do so till the day one of us is dead.

I do not fear the Mossad "what r they gonna do kill me" dang, what these pigs do and have done on a personal note, death would be welcome for anyone and they know it! I am now proficient at what I do and much wiser, more learned 'in the sciences...' than most of em at the very top... Their mouth waters for what I have and they know I have it, they will never get it 'unless they seriously clean up their act if ever they will'...

As time passes more and more destruction at their hand faces the masses in the USA. We are not alone, this is a battle of principalities and powers and at the end of the day it is my faith that has paved my way and I trust we can all pull it together and not stand down, not bow and be wise...Sure they imputed 9/11 and sure they covered it up and they r not alone. I think they used brain science, extortion, racketeering, espionage... their arsenal of tools to pull it off makes James Bond look like Maxwell Smart...They actually want to rule America and they believe they do. I am not convinced it is over yet for us true American patriots, for there are now multitudes doing what I do and did the same ol gauntlet; flat out laughing in their faces...

9/11 HA, is that the best you punks have, meet my friends they tote lasers use quantum teleportation and that is the tip of it. They are just itching to stop fearing your reign of terror. Uhmm negotiate!!! Mossad...stand down it is the only offer!!!

notamobster said...

RML - I've got to give it to you. You really got the brain spinning with the idea that the whole thing may have already been planned. Excellent point on stealing the revolutions. You're going to have my head reeling all night.

Anonymous said...

Z, I like your comments.

There is a school of thought, small but growing, called walk away and go forward. The stories are not going to change, the storytellers always got a new one, they're all the same.

Hidden Fortress said...

one of your best articles yet.....

i have been following for the truth for quite some time now and you definitely know what your talking about, keep spreading the word...

much peace....

Anonymous said...

What USA needs is a socialist united party

Hello all: What USA needs is a socialist united party, that would work as a vehicle in which the masses, the majority of americans who would like a real social, democratic system in USA for workers, by workers and in favor of workers and people, would have an organization in which to caste their votes every 4 years. However there is a catch-22 with this solution. The catch-22 problem is that the USA corporate fascist system thru the media and its other evil things it has, will not permit a United Socialist Democratic party. The media apparatus would denounce it as a cult or an evil organization, and would spread dirty propaganda against it, just like it did and it has done many times against Ron Paul, Howard Dean and now against Obama.

But We first need: An educational-propaganda campaign

In order to create a third united socialist party we would first of all need an educational campaign in order to spread knowledge to the masses about the evils of capitalism, fascism and imperialism and the only alternative to it is participative democratic socialism. The American masses are real confused and ignorant about how the world works. Trying to wake up the masses from their delirium would pose us as a threat. I read the biography of Hugo Chavez and that's how he started his political program in order to change Venezuela. He first tried to wake up Venezuelan poors about the evils of neoliberalism, he talked about the importance of teaching the masses about capitalism vs. socialism. And then when Venezuelan's poors learned about capitalism, Chavez started to do his thing (To overthrow the fascist capitalist venezuela system)
And here in USA we gotta do the same thing that Chavez did, teach the US poor for some months or years what is capitalism and what is socialism before trying to do form any political party. Almost nobody in USA have taught the masses the evils of neoliberalism, not even Kucinich, Ron Paul or any other candidate. Ron Paul was the only one who talked about the US constitution and nobody listened to him, because he didn't teach the masses about the evils of capitalism, because of the fact that Ron Paul was a capitalist, not a real alternative for poor people. Only socialist and marxists parties do that in USA and they don't get much coverage in TV. So before starting a third party, i suggest to spend some months or years trying to teach the poor people of America about the evils of capitalism and the wonders of a participative democratic socialist system, a people's system

Anonymous said...

Some of us have been taken out by the bioattacks of 2006 in my hood. My 35 yr old neighbor even died.

99 said...

I'm glad you're still on it. I can link you, and have a rest except when it's something big. I don't stop bringing people up short when they dis Truthers, dis the truth, I don't stop being devoted to the truth. I don't stop pointing, but there is just so damn much that needs the old klieg lamp and mirror treatment....

Anonymous said...

I've been reading and admiring your work. I'd like to share my thoughts. The best way I can do that is to invite you to visit.

Anonymous said...

Let us not forget to remind the Asian's of the Van Buren Trust...and no it is not owned by the Roths/Rocks/Illuminati...But it was set up with the highest moral standards and never can be changed! I love this secret society "HOT, HOT, HOT and wish them the best!!!

China, watch out for those laser teleports hitting your earths crust "someone Rocks et al; is having fun on your dime!"

Anonymous said...

u know most americans have this very wrong idea that a socialist USA system would change their lifestyle, but not really, if u think about it, socialism is not much different from capitalism. Only true communism would be, but the only people who will get affected by a modern market-socialist system would be: The owners of the Fortune 500 American Multinational Corporations, everybody else wouldn't be affected at all, and would even continue their employment in those corporations which would change from one owner to the other. In this modern-state-socialist system the owners of the 500 Mega-Corporations of America would be the US government, that's all, I don't see any problem with the US government owning 500 Mega-Corporations of America, i don't know what american citizens have against the US government managing Multinational Corporations and why do american citizens prefer private families managing those 500 Mega-Corporations. The only differences would be that under a US government ownership of those 500 Mega-Corporations the wealth created by those corporations would directly increase the salaries of the workers of those corporations and also the Social-Welfare programs to the 80 million people living in poverty in this country would be less poor. So poverty-levels would decrease and the majority of american people would benefit from such a massive-nationalization and statist-ownership of the 500 Mega-Corporations.

Another benefit would be that US government would be real economically stronger, and wouldn't need bribery, from corporate lobbies, because lobbying firms would be debilitated, the Corporate elites would be debilitated and even dead as a result of US government expropiating and nationalizing those 500 mega Corporations.

So AIPAC, BIG OIL, BIG PHARMA, And The Military-Industrial Complex all would either be weak or dead !!

No more corporate lobbies !! under a state-modern socialist system


Anonymous said...

Ben, the link below is lengthy but pertinent in our quest for discernment...

Nina, your post is strange and comes across along the lines of the below...what is up

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

4.. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

notamobster said...

X - I'm really biting my tongue...

The problem is not the companies, but rather their influence in our government, just as the merchants gained influence in the Roman Republic.

The problem is the self-interested men and women who wouldn't know integrity if it put a truck tire around them and lit them on fire.

The problem can not be solved by nationalizing, as you only shift absolute control to the same individuals who are responsible for selling this country out to begin with.

The idea that a man can get something from the collective without contributing is part of the problem. If a man gets hungry enough, he will work. People want too much. They just want to consume and consume, the consequences be damned. That is also part of the problem. The idea that you could give control of the entire "market" to the same profligate swine who have destroyed this country and expect them to miraculously do what is right, is beyond ridiculous. It boggles the mind.

Socialism is a wonderful system on paper and in it's ideals, but as with any government it falls victim to cronyism and eventually becomes an oppressive Oligarchy. Frederic Bastiat said in "Government" that : "government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavours to live at the expense of everyone else."

A Constitutional Republic that remains ever mindful of it's liberties (the so called "Rights of Man") and guards them zealously, where men govern at the pleasure of the people and return to share in the burden of their countrymen - is the only system that could ever allow true liberty.

In this system people are forced to make their own choices and suffer or enjoy the consequences. Businesses are allowed to fail, people are allowed to fail. Businesses are allowed to prosper, people are allowed to prosper.

Everyman can contribute according to his talents and receive just compensation. Stealing is stealing, whether done by a pick pocket or a Federal Racketeering organization (IRS).

You cannot steal from the labors of one man to pay another for his iniquity and/or laziness.

Subsidizing unwed mothers for having babies, buying food for people who refuse to work, giving huge corporate subsidies are all antithetical to a free-market in a Constitutional Republic designed to restrain government and protect the rights of the individual.

Eliminating the Federal Reserve and following the aforementioned Constitution which exressly states that "only Congress shall have the authority to coin money, and regulate the value thereof" would go a long way to eliminating the corruption inherent in our current system. Some of you may cringe at this but Apollonian was right on one thing: what we need are "honest elections and death to the Fed". What we need are concerned citizens who care more for their liberty than they do Britneys vagina.

A central bank is the greatest enemy to our form of government. Complacency is also a great enemy to our form of government.

Unfortunately, history has shown time and again that people get comfortable and then they get lazy. They tolerate the bullshit until a few "an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" pick and jab at them long enough that they get sick of it and fight back!

I leave you with the words of Samuel Adams:

“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. CROUCH DOWN AND LICK THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”

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Vrad the impostor said...

Dear Les Visible ,

The majority of the people on earth dont care whether it is bigfoot or the abominable snowman who is in charge . The reason is quite simple . Billions of People cant even get by or even eat . It is only once that survival is no longer an issue that they even have an opportunity to think about such things . Even then most people just want to "get on with things" and one cant blame them .All this peace and harmony thing is just an illusion . Along psychopathy and its assorted problems , you have to accept the fact that human loyalties are essentially tribal in nature . Loyalty to the tribe is the greatest and most honourable quality . Those outside the tribe are either partners or enemies . Now if the only way of getting what your tribe wants is to screw the other tribe ... you get the kind of evil things that you often talk about . I think we shouldnt be too harsh on the Jews . They like everyone else just want to "get on with things" . Most of them dont have anything to do with any of these activities. I think it goes too far to say as i recently read somewhere that Israel is a sore festering boil on the collective ass of humanity !!! I dont know maybe my habit of trying to be objective prevents me from seeing some things.Anyway, who did 9/11 is not as important as what was done using 9/11 as a justification .If people refuse to accept fear as a justification for such actions the question does not arise.As much as you can rail against the Randian philosophy of greed is good , from time immemorial it seems to me that this is the philosophy that people have been following . Life is a moment to moment struggle . When life ceases to be like that , things change . Somehow power becomes important . Self importance becomes important. With such a wide mix of conflicted and devious personalities/traits within and among us , its wouldnt be surprising if conflict exists forever . Infact the more intelligent an animal is the more likely it is . You havent too many animals waging intra species warfare ... We humans are splitting apart ..

Anonymous said...

The owner of (Tom Foley) was threatened with a gun (I suspect that he was not threatened by US government itself, but by ultra-right wing paramilitary militias of the minute-men type that the US government uses, to intimidate and to harass people and leftists)

Anonymous said...

My father used to say "all that has to be explained is a lie". Weird eh? I don't think I agree with him, BUT one thing is fact; at this point the truth is quite simple and obvious. What I would like to suggest is some amount of questioning on subjects that are usually beyond discussion, like death and money. First one has to watch a human being dieing, face to face, watch their eyes, the sounds and the smells, try to feel what the moribund must be feeling, and maybe think "I'm gonna be that some day". We (western, white, european) don't know shit about the most basic subjects but are full of points of view about life and existence on the drop of a frog. Next, money. IF you have money, and for that you need to distort yourself, be like this and like that, do this and that, serve the masters, have "jobs", give your soul (another unknown) to something like "a firm", or be a "professional", as if the soul is interested in being just one thing for the whole duration of the journey, etc etc, so IF after oppressing you soul to the point of jelly, and only then you have any money, then you can have "a life" and opinions, view points and filet mignons avec moustarde and wine, not to mention health plans and hospitals, which is an experience much different from what the "have-nots" call "life". About 90% of humanity have "lives" that we wouldn't even recognize as such, and yet "we" have endless discussions about "life". If we see a politician, for instance, talking about music with an elevated degree of flamboyance, we get annoyed and want to tell him "fuck off, don't talk about you don't understand, ya bastard". Likewise I often feel like that about "us" when we talk about life, politics, etc. What we call life is an absurdity from the 1st moment. Our "system" nullifies (?) itself from the start, since it's based on subservience and money. We are psycopaths since birth, trained to smile and say yes to the devil believing it's the Almighty God Almighty. Let's then have a bit of fun and understand it's all fucked up, UNLESS you have the talent to get alienated enough and get a job in an advertising agency. Then you can drive your mercedes and care about love, politics, systems and life. If you really wake up, you see the uinverse has crashed, it's Type 10 Error, it's the blue screen, it's restart or nothing. Sorry if I sound pessimistic but I really don't give a shit.

FilmClick said...

Red Pill nominated in best documentary category
The short documentary film "The Red Pill" has been nominated for the award of "Best Documentary" from the online film community FilmClick. The film, which ultimately asks viewers to demand a new investigation into 9/11, relates the attacks on 9/11 to the actions of the shadow government beginning in the post-WWII world, and shows how the 9/11 attacks are just an extension of the shadow government's capabilities for covert operations which were honed during the modern era.

Visit the website and click on the festival links to vote:

The FilmClick Online Film Festival is currently underway with voting in the documentary category taking place from August 12 to August 26, 2008. The winner's will be awarded their prizes on September 10th, 2008. As it stands our chances are pretty good. It is unclear the chances of winning a cash prize, however given that the Red Pill was undertaken as a non-profit effort, any winnings from this contest would be donated in their entirety to the FealGood Foundation. At the very least, we could have a pro 9/11 truth movie high on the list of winners.

We ask that if you can you come donate a few minutes to vote for 9/11 truth and hopefully the FealGood foundation as well

Robert said...

"The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists … Race Traitor will not abandon its focus on whiteness, no matter how vehement the pleas and how virtuously oppressed those doing the pleading. The editors meant it when they replied to a reader, “Make no mistake about it: we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed—not ‘deconstructed’ but destroyed.”
Noel Ignatiev, Ed.M. Ph.D. from 1994,fellow at the W.E.B. Du Bois Institute.American history professor at the Massachusetts College of Art



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